Why does Homeopathy seem to irk skeptics the most?

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  1. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Do you not know what a placebo is?
     
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    Have you got a viable explanation for how it DOES work - other than placebo effect? If you do you stand to win a lot of money!!

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19826613.200-competition-puts-homeopathy-on-trial.html
     
  3. suede

    suede Banned

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    Yes, but that doesn't answer my question though. Please answer it.
     
  4. suede

    suede Banned

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    I'll answer your question after you answer mine.


    If you knew how homeopathy works, you would know you couldn't do this for a single remedy. You could for the combination remedies, but what company is going to shell out the money to prove an un-patentable product?

    He's probably sour because homeopathy is eating away at his profits.
     
  5. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Actually, it did.
     
  6. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While I agree that homeopathy is snake oil, your logic is unsound. Lack of testing and peer review does not make anything "snake oil" or otherwise non-medicine.
     
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    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not sure if it's more irksome than Reiki. At least homeopaths generally know their herbs and can recommend real substances for minor issues like a stuffy nose or muscle pain.
     
  8. suede

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    No it didn't.

    Is it possible science doesn't yet know how it works?
     
  9. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Do you know what a placebo is?
     
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    suede Banned

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    How can a "snake oil" therapy system not only survive for over 200 years, but consistently keep getting more and more popular every year?
     
  11. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    You seriously think that's evidence? Lots of things that didn't work survived for a very long time.
     
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    AllEvil Active Member Past Donor

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    Well in my experience it is.

    Which is exactly as reliable a claim as you saying it is the most hated.
     
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    AllEvil Active Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't work. It is no more effective than a placebo.
     
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    Yes.

    Such as? And don't say blood-letting.
     
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    My answer requires a yes or no.

    Is it possible science doesn't yet know how it works?
     
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    In that case - No. Science has demonstrated time and time again that it doesn't work.
     
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    Are doctors also approved to diagnose ADHD? I wonder why so many children in the US are on drugs for ADHD when in fact, they are just little (*)(*)(*)(*)s who need a good kick up the bum?

    I would try alternate measures before resorting to drugs. If that didn't work, put the kid on medication. But medication should NEVER be a first resort.

    That doesn't give a doctor the right to say that something doesn't work, if it makes someone feel better, then that is all that matters.
     
  18. Panzerkampfwagen

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    But it isn't working for them.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, it is. They believe it is. If I take a sugar pill and it makes my tummy feel better, then that sugar pill has worked. I don't care about the science behind it, I am just glad I don't feel ill anymore.

    If someone can take something and it helps with their pain, then we shouldn't tell them it doesn't work and to throw expensive drugs at them.
     
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    Herbal remedies and those other drugs you think are just water do actually work. It depends on which ones you buy and you have to try a lot to see what works.

    Regular drugs don't work for me. Two Nurofen do nothing for me. Half an hour later my pain returns, worse than before.
    I thought drugs were meant to help?
     
  21. Panzerkampfwagen

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    No it hasn't. You have worked, not what you took.
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    By the sounds of it YOU are causing them not to work by not accepting that they do. You are causing the problem.
     
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    They haven't worked for years. I don't have an issue with people taking drugs, I just hate that doctors refuse to consider that something else MIGHT work. For me, regular drugs rarely work. They used to, but no longer.
     
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    They did consider that it might work. In fact, they went ahead and tested it. As it turns out, it doesn't work.
     
  25. Panzerkampfwagen

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    You're not getting it. It doesn't work. It's just the belief in it working that is working. Sugar isn't a magical cancer cure just because some people in a trial got better when they were given a sugar pill.
     

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