promoting homosexuality to children banned in Russia

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Anders Hoveland, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    I would have thought you were trying to prove what the policy "meant". Would seem what it is called, couldnt be more irrelevant.
     
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    JeffLV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, just trying to show he wasn't making up the idea, where similar legislation around the world exists.

    Inappropriate application and questioning if the laws will have similar results in schools are a different story.... which is not necessarily irrelevant, as you say, but has to be shown.
     
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    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/one-towns-war-on-gay-teens-20120202?a=1

    Go have a gander at that.

    Before you spout off you should do some research of your own.

     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    But it didnt mean "that teachers couldn't reprimand students who were gay bashing because it might be seen or construed as "encouraging" homosexuality".
     
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    They also need laws to stop Jews from going into schools and whining about the "holocaust" since it didn't really happen. The real holocaust was in Russia, where Jews calling themselves "communists" murdered like 50 million people.
     
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    These are the clowns who support inequality.

    Pretty laughable if you ask me.
     
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    Wow, homophobic and anti-Semitic!
     
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    As I said that is what happens. The teachers were afraid to reprimand students for gay bashing, fearing it may paint homosexuality in an "encouraging" light or be construed as such and thus they would lose their jobs.
     
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    Defending a child from bullies who are calling him a (*)(*)(*) could be seen as promoting his homosexuality. The words "promoting" and "encouraging" are vague when deciding if you can or can not defend someone who is being verbally insulted (physical abuse might be a different story, but even so it has apparently lead to some confusion on what the teachers can and can not do).

    The sex-ed and school nurse was a particularly interesting issue... could teaching gays about having safe homosexual sex be seen as "promoting" or "encouraging" it?
     
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    The part of the story were the LGBT club that they tried to start as a result of the neutrality requirement is also rather disturbing. Limiting their ability to form a support network.

    and I'm not sure what you meant, dixon, by

    The story itself was about the actions of multiple teachers, school administrators, and various other parties involved that stood in the way of things like creating the LGTB club and stopping the bullying. It wasn't just a story about one teacher doing the wrong thing, it was about the community doing the wrong thing. I suspect you didn't read very far into it if that's all you got from it.
     
  12. dixon76710

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    Baseless speculation. We dont have a single teacher who has indicated they were afraid of any such thing. Just gay activist insisting it must be so.

    I find it offensive. 9 kids committed suicide in 18 months, and it would seem the only concern is that 4 of them were believed to be homosexual, or were believe to be perceived by others as homosexual.
     
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    Suicide is common in homosexuals everywhere, it has nothing to do with discrimination.

    Russia is still recovering from Communism. Last thing they need is a bunch of Marxist-liberal activists getting in everybody's face.
     
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    Discrimination against gay people exists everywhere to some degree... especially in schools, and when many of the US kids who've recently committed suicide were either known to be gay or were being bullied because they were perceived as such, to suggest it was anything but discrimination is stupid.
     
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    You find what offensive? That people aren't asking why the other 5 committed suicide?

    People kill themselves for various reasons. Some people are born with chemical imbalances that make them more prone to depression and suicide. And there's help for those people. But when we see an outside phenomenon accountable for half of all young suicides, passing a "don't say gay" bill is just cruel.
     
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    Oh get over it. Lots of people get picked on in school and they're just fine.

    Homosexuals suffer from all kinds of emotional problems, and many are extremely anti-social.

    Russia is doing the right thing, not allowing militant gay activists to impose their perverted sickness on others. Homosexuality is a disease, and strong, proud nationalism is the cure.
     
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    The vast, vast, vast majority of young gay people will never commit suicide, but when they account for only ~3% of society and almost HALF of(*)all young suicides, it's not an appropriate time to be telling teachers and youth workers that they can't even discuss homosexuality with young people. You may aswell be handing these kids a noose.

    People in general do.

    *Rolls eyes*
     
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    Why would you presume their suicide was any different than the other 5 suicides by non homosexuals? Like I said, this is offensive. 9 kids took their lives, and the only concern is that 4 of them might have been homosexuals.
     
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    Slave and porno outfits are probably not the best outfit choice if you want your movement to be taken seriously. Why do they allow those imbeciles to parade around like that? I have never been to a gay pride parade that doesn't have them. It would be like a black pride parade showcasing gangsters with crackhead mothers and babies waving welfare checks on floats.
     
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    They were free to discuss homosexuality with young people. Just not promote it. Im sure we could reduce suicide by drug addicts by promoting drug addiction so its not stigmatized by society, but I dont think that is a reasont that we should do so.
     
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    Because gays only account for a tiny fraction of society and yet we're talking almost half of young suicides. Not the right time to pass any anti-gay legislation in schools.
     
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    In the UK most teachers and youth workers wouldn't go anywhere near it. Fact. "Promotion" is ambiguous. Then you have Tennessee's "Don't say gay" bill...
     
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    The other half that weren't queer probably had something wrong with them too.

    Homosexuality is a mental disorder. Gays are prone to a number of social problems including drug abuse, promiscuity and extreme narcisism.

    The APA only reversed it's classification of homosexuality under extreme pressure from militant gay activists.
     
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    The Russians have not forgotten how they were murdered and enslaved for 70 years by Jews calling themselves "communists".

    There is no place for Marxist-Liberal activist groups in any healthy society that wishes to preserve it's freedom.
     
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    Yeah, yeah... I've heard all this before. I'd sooner trust some of the most respected organisations in America in their respective fields than fringe organisations that set out to find evidence to fit the foregone conclusion (reminds me of creationists).
     

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