If Islamic terrorism was halted, would our Jihad problems be over?

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If Islamic terrorism was halted, would our Jihad problems be over?

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  1. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    If Islamic terrorism was halted, would our Jihad problems be over?

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  2. ArmySoldier

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    Yes. If there wasn't violence to worry about from the islamic terrorism, the Jihad becomes irrelevant.
     
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    I voted no.

    Even if we killed all Muslim Terrorists (a good thing to do), more would pop up, since their Quran will teach young Muslims to become terrorists.
     
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    As long as there are groups of people who are oppressed in the world, extremism will be a problem.
     
  5. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    I agree. As long as there are unedited arabic versions (lies are injected into non-arabic translations to fool infidels and westerners) of the Quran readily available and they are being read by millions and taken seriously new jihadists will be formed.
     
  6. Pregnar Kraps

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    ISIS controls hundreds of thousands of square miles and hundreds of cities and towns and they take in millions of dollars a day.

    Who was oppressing them when they immolated the Jordanian pilot?

    Hmm?

    Who was oppressing Muhammed when he was killing all of the Jews in Medina?

    Hmm?

    Who was oppressing Osama bin Laden when he financed 9/11?

    Hmm?

    Who was oppressing Muhammad Atta the lead 9/11 hijacker when he was leading a comfortable upper middle class life in Germany and started his planning of the 9/11 attack?

    Hmm?
     
  7. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    That is a laughable lie.

    ISIS must be reading those 'bogus' Korans.

    They should all kill themselves for reading such blasphemous texts.

    :roflol:
     
  8. RiseAgainst

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    No.. ISIS reads the accurate version of the Quran, in arabic...
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Our problems with jihad, yes. Our problems with the Middle East won't be solved until we pretty much stop using oil as a fuel
     
  10. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    The correct answer is no.

    This is a lengthy piece and well worth reading every word.

    Jihad – The Four Forms and the West

    Here's an excerpt.

    http://www.islam-watch.org/home/165-jon-mc/1447-jihad--the-four-forms-and-the-west.html
     
  11. Pregnar Kraps

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    That's what I thought.

    And they are reading and interpreting it correctly.

    And they are showing the world how they are emulating the Prophet's example and following his commands.
     
  12. Pregnar Kraps

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    What about the threat of Muslim Brotherhood members deep inside the highest levels of our Federal government?

    You don't think they pose a threat to the United States?

    Go ahead. Make my day.

    :D
     
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    The Kurds. The USAF and USN. The Iraqi Army and president (iow, the Shia). Just your run of the mill oppressors. There's just something about Sunnis that doesn't like being subjugated by Shia, Kurds, Christians and Jews. I'll never understand 'em.
     
  14. RiseAgainst

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    Yes. I am on your side bro. I probably hate Islam more than you do.
     
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    What a stupid question.

    The primary problems driving the violence we see today in the ME has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with absolutely horrible government - in Iraq, in Saudi Arabia, in Syria, in Afghanistan, and on and on.

    Even in Israel we see a government that is carrying out ethnic cleansing operations on a nation it occupies.

    These things ALWAYS result in violence. Humans don't sit by for that kind of treatment. It has little to nothing to do with what religion they espouse.

    While humans live under despots, there will be revolution.
     
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    Will that reform or erase the Koran?

    Or will that make Muslims stop following the commands of their Holy texts which tell them to conquer the world for Allah?

    - - - Updated - - -

    What a difference 2 weeks can make.

    I trust you are of a different opinion now.
     
  17. Margot2

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    What "unedited versions" are you speaking of?

    Jihad is largely an internal struggle to obey God's will... not unlike the line in the Lord's Prayer. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"...........
     
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    Saudi Arabia doesn't gave a horrible government.. Look at their track record over the past 70 years.....The SAG leadership is committed to the future social and economic progress of the Saudi people. KSA was influenced by American oil men... Very different from the British model in Iran and Iraq.
     
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    Nothing has happened that affected anything I've said.
     
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    Well, there we go with something to disagree on!

    I'm not a big fan of public executions, beating women in the street for not following someone's dress code, etc. But, I think there are more signs of repression than that.

    Also, in the case of OBL, the point is more than it is what OBL considered to be the case, thus motivating his terrorism.
     
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    Non-arabic translations of the Quran are not fully accurate. They are watered down to make Islam appear less barbaric than it actually is.

    You dont want to dance with me Margot. I have sources very high up that have proven this. Try your bs on someone not in the know. There are plenty to pick from.
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Stuck on stupid?
     
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    Do you agree that jihad is to advance Islam until it finally reigns over every person on Earth?

    And speaking of questions to ask of Muslims...

    Questions for Every Muslim
    by Bill Warner | posted in: Newsletter | 7

    When you study the incident of Major Hasan at Fort Hood, you realize that there were some questions that needed to have been asked. But, no one knew what to ask, since the wrong questions might seem, well, politically incorrect. No one wants to be politically incorrect. We don’t want to offend.

    If you look around you will find that no one is asking any Muslims hard questions. Never mind the Major Hasan types, no one asks questions to the Muslim at work. It turns out that there are many questions that each and every Muslim should be asked. These are simple ones that deal with the core of Islam. Every Muslim knows the answers.

    “Do you believe that the Koran is perfect?” This is not offensive. Muslims must believe that the Koran is perfect, without error. They also believe that it is eternal and universal. Most of all, it came from the lips of Mohammed.

    “Is Mohammed the ideal Muslim?


    Should Muslims pattern their life after Mohammed?” Again, don’t worry that Muslims will find this awkward. Mohammed is admired, looked up to, and idealized. He is the perfect father, husband, friend, warrior, wise elder and best companion that could be.

    These questions establish the Islam of the believer. Every Muslim believes that the Koran is perfect, and Mohammed is the ideal human.

    Islam is only partially based on the Koran. Far more of a Muslim’s life is governed by Mohammed than the Koran and Allah. Why is this so important? The practical way to understand Islam and what Muslims believe and think is to know about Mohammed. This is very good news. Anyone can understand Mohammed’s life.

    However, once you get to know Mohammed, the perfect Muslim, Islam becomes problematic. From the first days of being a prophet Mohammed not only preached a better way of life, but he attacked all those who did not believe him. He created a new type of human being called the kafir, usually called unbeliever, but this is not an accurate translation. A kafir is the worst person in the world; an unbeliever is just someone who does not believe. A kafir can be mocked, deceived, tortured, enslaved, murdered, robbed, raped, and plotted against. Kafir is the worst word in the human language.

    Now we are ready to ask a Muslim another question. “Am I a kafir?”

    The only answer is yes, but that is not the answer you will get. If you are a Christian you will be told no, you are a person of the Book. That sounds nice, but if you don’t believe that both Jesus and Mohammed were the prophets of Allah and that the Gospels are false, then you are a Christian kafir. They also might say that you are a non-Muslim, but that is not what the Koran says. The Koran says that you are a kafir.

    Now we come to more questions that should be asked, but most people do not have the knowledge to ask them, since the questions are based on knowing Mohammed’s life. As an example, Mohammed repeatedly advised Muslims to deceive kafirs if it would advance Islam. So: “Have you ever deceived a kafir?” is appropriate to ask.

    Mohammed assassinated kafirs, tortured, enslaved, robbed and plotted against them. His entire life as a prophet was an attempt to make kafirs submit to Islam by any means possible. It is proper then to ask: “How do you feel about what he did?”

    If you are a Christian, ask: “Over 60 million Christians have been killed in jihad. Christians are persecuted daily in Islamic lands. Have you ever apologized for this?”

    If you are a black American, ask: “Islam sold slaves on the West coast of Africa, the east coast of Africa and the Mediterranean. You enslaved over a million Europeans. Why do you never take any responsibility for slavery?”

    If you are a Jew, ask: “How do you see the war against Israel as jihad?”

    The other reason we do not ask questions is that we have become a nation of deceivers under political correctness. We don’t ask Muslims any question that would make them feel “uncomfortable”.

    It is completely reasonable to ask anyone about their ideology. Christians, Jews, liberals, conservatives and every other ideology have to answer questions about what they believe. Why not Muslims?

    That is the true question for kafirs: “Why are Muslims the only people in the world who don’t have to be asked difficult questions about what they believe?”

    All Muslims must answer questions about Islam, questions about Mohammed and the Koran for the only way to know a Muslim is to know their Islam.

    Bill Warner
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    If you had something to say, I'm sure you would have said it.
     
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    Not necessarily.

    I could be toying with you.

    Making you wait for my next move.
     

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