Virginia Ultrasound Bill Passes In House

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  1. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    Sure it is.
     
  2. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, it doesn't matter to me. It's Virginia's deal. Vote the bastards out if you don't like it.
     
  3. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Bingo!!!! or leave the state.
     
  4. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    Either that or move.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Having your tubes tied is not necessary when the woman can use contraception, and if it fails, have an abortion.
     
  6. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Then use your state's political process to obtain justice; if that fails, then leave the state.
     
  7. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Ahhh, use abortion as contraception...brilliant.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Wrong. Abortion is not used as contraception. EVER. Contraception prevents a pregnancy. Abortion doesn't prevent a pregnancy, it ends one.
     
  9. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    I see this was missed....

     
  10. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    And when the woman can't afford it, you want everyone else, even those of us who are Catholic which we are against abortion, to pay for it.

    great.
     
  11. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    You said when contraception fails, use abortion, so that is being used as a form of contraception.
     
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    Conservatives are funny. They are in favor of mandatory healthcare now.
     
  13. My Fing ID

    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, though I do support healthcare as government infrastructure. Obama care goes at it the wrong way. Rather than make some weird system of government insurance and this strange attempt at lowering insurance prices by roundabout law, the government should simple provide healthcare with private entities existing as a means of getting better care. The government should provide a base, not a monopoly. Think of it like the USPS and other carrier service. I have no problem with the existence of the USPS, however saying that only the USPS can deliver letters is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Rather if a service wishes to compete with the USPS it should be able to fully do so. Simply because the government provides infrastructure does not mean it should have a monopoly in that sector, nor does it mean it should hold private companies who compete to the same standard.
     
  14. Rapunzel

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    It wasn't missed by me...but the left just kept going on and on about it. You know they don't want government intervention when it comes to anything to do with abortion, but they love Ubamacare, shoved down the throats of us against our will.
     
  15. Makedde

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    Catholics don't seem to object to forcing people opposed to the death penalty to pay for it. Why is it?
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Abortion and contraception are not the same things. You know it and I know it.
     
  17. My Fing ID

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    I'm not necessarily a conservative, being that they left the small government, liberty loving types in the dust, but even so I support government providing healthcare. I do not however support Obama care and its insane way of going about thing. The other, very large issue is how do we get funding for such a system. That's for another thread though, think I'll start one!
     
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    Ubamacare is not about healthcare. It's about power and control.
    If they really wanted to make healthcare accessible and affordable they would have made it available for purchase across state lines.
     
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    Catholics are against the death penalty as well.
     
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    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    But you want to use abortion as a contraceptive.
     
  21. Makedde

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    Then why don't they stand up and protest about having to pay for it? And I know at least one Catholic on this forum who is fine with the death penalty.
     
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    If your contraception fails and you get an abortion, you have used it as a form of contraception. Hey don't feel bad, lots of women use abortion as their main form of contraception.
     
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    Contraception PREVENTS a pregnancy. Abortion ENDS one. Abortion is not a form of contraception. How many times must I state the obvious?
     
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    Yes, it does. You implied that women who get abortions are basically apprised of the procedure and its full range of possible medical implications. I am simply informing you that medical science can be pretty murky at times, so there is no way for them to really understand how this procedure will impact them physiologically and psychologically. Having a living organism removed from your body is a profound interruption of natural processes.

    Alright, you have a point there. It doesn't really help them to appreciate the medical implications of the procedure. Would you then be supportive of some kind of mandatory education program? Personally, I think we should encourage adoption as a first resort.

    Perhaps they would have grown to love their child more than anything in the world. Or maybe they could have put them up for adoption.

    If it was emotionally scarring, then perhaps they did not really make the right decision. Perhaps having the child and raising it would have been the most rewarding experience of their life.
     
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    Yet not necessary. I'm all for providing the patient with more information, but not shoving it down their throats.
     
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