why Mormans are not Christian

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  1. Neutral

    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    Right, Clearly Mormons think as you do. I am the only one.

    Read it, at the very least. Otherwise, all you are doing is the same thing as the Islamophobes. That's it.
     
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    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    That is not what they claim Doc. They claim the same thing as every other Christian denomination about those three days, they also claim the resurrection. And after the resurrection ... that is when he appears in the New World.

    Its literally titled ANOTHER testiment of Jesus Christ - not a DIFFERENT testiment of Jesus Christ.

    Maybe you should read the book. Clearly it bothers you that it is out there, and the best way to deal with things that bother you is to face them.

    So read it. Being familiar with different faiths is no Sin.
     
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    he came over here accordingly when he was in the grave...

    thats the true...

    i've got a book of mormon in my house...

    those elder kids are all over toronto and i talk to them

    been to salt lake city
    took the tour

    in the big place all the acoustics, drop the needle here it in the back...

    have fun neutral telling people what i am and what i think
     
  4. Injeun

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    I don't know how you reach that conclusion. According to scripture, Jesus is the Fathers only begotten Son, the only Savior. One Father, one Son, one way. So why not one true church?
     
  5. Neutral

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    No Doc, you are wrong.

    I just explained what the premise of the BoM is. It begins where the New Testament ends. Jesus spent those three days in Hell, he then returns and spends 40 days with his disciples. The BoM offers no details whatsoever about the acts of Jesus in Jerusalem.

    It begins with Lehi and his family around 600BC, who leave the Old World and arrive at the New World and begin teaching the message of a the coming of the Messiah. It then, much like the Old Testament, goes through a series of parables about the often way word adherents of the new faith, and eventually, recounts the tale of Jesus appearing in the New World - after the events of Jerusalem expire - and eventually, the destruction of the faith at teh hands of the local idol worshippers. The last thing the BoM asks you to do is to pray over the truthfulness of the account.

    I am sorry that knowing this feels like a personal insult?

    Maybe there is a better way of looking at it. I have my own denomination, but I caste aspirtions and doubt on no legimate faith. Perhaps this is in your thoughts because you are being called? Simply resisting it?

    There are worse things out there than being a Mormon. If it fits, if it works? So be it.

    Of course, it would be interesting to see you as a Mormon, if for no other reason than it would be interesting to see Wolfies' face and his consternation about the racism of the BoM.

    The BoM is what it is, you can think of it what you will, but the BoM is addition to the Bible, and does not conflict with anything in the Bible itself.
     
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    no matter how many times you want to deny it..

    mormons believe Jesus came over here and preached to them during His 3 day retreat in the grave...

    i say retreat...maybe it was death i dunno...his body was in the grave and his spirit did the work over here...

    ask a mormon...

    maybe you been reading a book called moron and not mormon..

    mormons are an abomination of the Bible and Christ..
     
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    3rd Nephi chapter 11 so post resurrection

    14 Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may athrust your hands into my side, and also that ye may feel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet, that ye may know that I am the God of Israel, and the God of the whole dearth, and have been slain for the sins of the world.
     
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    mormons told me what i'm saying...

    neutral has agendas galore and lets reality slip by...
     
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    I suppose if you’re racist yourself or just like how you look being turned another color might be a curse for you and your generation
     
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    I don't think the BoM says he was here for those three days. I believe it says he showed himself to the Nephites after his resurrection.
     
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    i can no longer make posts in this thread to neutral or the last two posters due to the fact they are completely unable to carry on a discussion.
    it's like they want other people to say something they are not saying in order to argue.

    i forgot how inane this place can be..

    what happened to all the intelligent posters that used to post here..i go way for a year and come back to this...
     
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    What's a 'Morman?' :)
     
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    Yep, he's not wrong, even with citation, even with Mormons telling him he's wrong ... he's not wrong.

    Well, drive on Doc.

    But stop pointing fingers at others, and start taking a good inventory of yourself.

    So you are tracking, the Mormon doctrine is:

    The Old Testament
    The New Testament
    The Book of Mormon
    The Doctrine and Covenants
    The Pearl of Great Price

    None of the conflict with one another. And if you don;t want to acknowlegde that, so be it. But do not ask at least two Mormons, who are slammed now with me, to renouce the truth of their faith to placate you.
     
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    ok lets try a question in all fairness..


    have you ever heard that Jesus came over here to North america to teach the word to the peoples here, whilst his body lay in a grave....
     
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    Nope, and I have had Mormon missionaries in my home. As a Mormon just cited in 3 Nephi, Jesus came AFTER the resurrection.

    Deny if you wish, but its in the book you haven't read.
     
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    What’s you problem with me all i did was clarify about Jesus in the book of Mormon and muse about the idea of skin color as a curse?
     
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    im not a believer any more
     
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    Changes nothing about the veracity of the fact though does it?
     
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    um about the 3rd Nephi and Jesus as described their in no it changes nothing I’m just not a Mormon anymore and i don’t want to give the impression i am falsely
     
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    No worries. It's not like its a bad thing ...
     
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    Not even the deciples wrote the gospels......The earliest one was written 60 to 70 years after Jesus was crucified. The average lifespan at that time was less than 60......This means, since every deciple was already between 30 and 40 years old, ut's very very very unlikely that they would still be alive.......The odds of the any one of them living 60 years after the fact to write the gospels is way to high to take seriously......

    Most of the books were written by other people, using the apostles' names to try and add credit to their work.
     
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    More than one churches follow the teachings of the Bible so there is no one true church.
     
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    if your going to hide behind a curtain of blame i cannot help you..

    you realized where you went wrong and decided to go with the other moron's take on things ..even though you realize you should have spoken up..

    where are the cojones man...
     
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    technically all Christian churches are a spin off from the one sitting in Rome.

    i realize people just forget about this fact and wish to think there version and the one they give their money to is ok...
    but when it comes down to receiving the True Holy Sacrament, the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ...there is only one true lineage where a priest can actually have the valid ACT carried out...

    all else is counterfeit...

    facts are facts
     
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    So you're a Catholic? Great...
     

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