Germany is cutting solar-power subsidies because they are expensive and inefficient

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yea, where does it specify the cost to build per mWh in you link? Do you understand what cost per mWh means?
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How is that? I proved the cost to build per mWh is only slightly more for nuclear than solar and nuclear runs 24/7 solar does NOT plus solar needs a dual system to provide electricity when the weather won't cooperate. Perhaps I can get you can succeed where jeb failed, I doubt it. Post the cost to build solar per mWh because the contention is it's cheaper.
     
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    PP, you have NO idea what you are speaking about other then RW talking points. Read the link in the quote above.
     
  4. Jebediah

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    I wasn't even going to respond to the post. It's a troll post. As simple as that. Even the OP didn't bother posting anymore after he started thread.

    I honestly don't mind having an honest discussion with people from different political ideologies, but most of what you get around here is just mindless trolling.
     
  5. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would anyone post a link from visionofearth.org. Obviously not even on the same planet as a real news source. Sorry, I don't click links to kook blogs from Saskatchewan. Get back to me when you have some real information from a legitimate source wally.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure that any post asking you to prove what you say is a "troll post".

    Since ya'all can't seem to prove what you say, we're done. In the future if you want to win a debate come prepared with provable facts.
     
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    Solar thermal with storage runs 24/7 and can provide efficient dispatchable power. Nuclear does NOT
     
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  9. Jebediah

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    I don't see how this post is asking me to prove anything...

    It's just a pointless drive by comment with a little troll picture.
     
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    Says the one who links washingtontimes. LOL Like I said................you have been owned.
     
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    Back on-topic.

    If solar were so wonderful, why are the Germans flushing it?
     
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    They were probably talkng to Spain. ;-)
     
  13. Jebediah

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    The answer should be obvious.

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    Well, the taxpayers subsidized THEIR hydroelectric - generating dams.

    Time to pay it back!
     
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    They aren't "flushing it".

    Solar has caught on and the prices have dropped and continue to drop fast, and now they are cutting the subsidies.
     
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    Its called the ocean effect.

    Actually, quite a bit of solar energy gets through, much to the chagrin of people who are badly sunburned thinking that its too cloudy.

    But the optimal place for solar generation is outside of the coastal "june gloom" area of morning fog that sometimes lasts all day!
     
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    My god, you would think folks would read about the subject of what they are (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about. And to those that did read it, you would hope they had a clue as to what the hell they are reading. LOL
     
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    Are you new to this forum?
     
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    And someone who has attacked every environmental item is agaist PV?


    The number are easy to find for everyone.

    That this article on purpose (dont believe its an accident) reduced it tenfold from 3+% to 0.3% says enough. Dribble and lies nothing more.


    PV prices have been dropped by 75-80% the last years, thats why the subsidies are not needed anymore .
     
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    The "Professors" article is filled with lies...

    The truth...

    A ten fold LIE. Makes you wonder about the rest of the worthless article. So once again in true forum fashion we have been Rickrolled by another poorly sourced right wing troll thread and have spent 17 pages arguing about nonsense.
     
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    Already pointed it out pages ago, but as usual they ignore facts .
     
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    The citations used by right wingers are terrible. They have to invent their own skewed publications like the Washington Times to published BS conservative articles. And that's not even enough. They comb through the semi-legitimate press looking for authors that have 10 fold errors in their numbers to support their erroneous conclusions.
     
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    Ha-Ha!

    You are funny, Jeb.

    It is a well proven fact that "solar energy" will not satisfy our future energy needs. Try as hard as they may, the "greenies" cannot make the sun shine at night, and thay cannot make the solar energy collectors work on cloudy and overcast days!

    In most areas of the USA, both conditions usually prevail at least 50-60% of the time!

    Nice try, but no cigar!
     
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    You have convert to the heat first, you have to transfer into storage, then there is loss while it is stored (hot things tend to cool), then you have to transfer back out. And how much can you store? 7 to 12 hours most systems. Not gonna get you through a cloudy day and then night. Where is the electricity going to come from then?

    And where does the heat come from? You have to build the solar plant that much larger.

    Yeah and if you are cloudy for three days?

    And if you're cloudy for three days.

    And highly corrosive and costly to maintain.
     
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    Never said it would and anyone who claims I did is posting lies.

     

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