Rejecting the Keystone pipeline is an act of insanity

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  1. Margot

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    So in your mind TransCanada is the government?
     
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    The unions and environmentalists have to take turns sometimes. There's only so much screwing that can be performed at any one time.

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    So what if AirBus sells airplanes to China instead of Boeing?

    We're all just one big happy family in the world community, right?
     
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    In terms of obtaining the right of way?

    Yes.

    Just like building an electric power line would be.

    Not every land owner wants a power line across their land either.

    But you don't stop the whole project just because of one person.
     
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    Yeah so what if we are still dependent on oil from terror nations. Your idea that keeps us in the middle east is exasperating. Instead of buying oil from our friends from the north, you would as soon keep us dependent on terror oil.
     
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    You republicans sound like a bunch of crack addicts. Instead of getting off the drug, you complain that somebody else is taking it from you.

    We need to get away from oil republican'ts. Trouble is conservative(means backwards) so you lot are terrifted of taking a change on trying to improve the future.
     
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    He doesn't understand the nature of the deal.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aUcQstVre0Po

    Petrobras, as the Rio de Janeiro-based firm is known, also agreed to sell as much as 100,000 barrels of oil this year to China Petroleum & Chemical Corp.’s Sinopec unit, Gabrielli said.

    The loan will be used for general corporate purposes and to help Petrobras pay for a $174.4 billion, five-year investment plan, Gabrielli said, without giving details of the loan’s cost. The final terms of the loan will be worked out between now and May, when Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva travels to China on a state visit, a spokeswoman for Gabrielli said. The spokeswoman asked not to be named, citing company rules.

    Petrobras has been talking with China about the loan since last year. The company has been seeking alternatives to international bank lending and bonds to finance its spending plan in the face of an international credit crunch.
     
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    So you call all the First Nations in BC, fringe nuts? Maybe you should do a little research about who opposes the Gateway pipeline before spouting off on a subject you obviously know nothing about. Google is your friend you know.
     
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    What sickens me is that you think that in order for me to not be a hypocrite I'd have to die considering the fact that all food is transported via oil engines.
    You're logic is that of someone who is unable to think.
     
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    This pipeline will carry less than 700,000 barrels of heavy sour crude to Port Arthur, Texas to be refined an exported.

    It doesn't change the oil we import from Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela or Nigeria.
     
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    Ayuh,.... Yer the 1 who wants Us to revert to the 18th century standards...
     
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    Melodrama doesn't contribute to understanding the reality.
     
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    Ayuh,... 'n the Melodrama of the leftist thinkin' we can go from an Oil economy to a Green economy, OVERNIGHT is pretty Foolish...
    And quite Melodramatic...

    We need to keep as much oil flowing as possible...
    If, 'n When green technology matures to where it's viable, then, 'n only then do We need to worry about turnin' the oil spigot off...

    It hard to believe these leftist wingnuts are advocating shippin' oil 1/2 way around the world in a boat, is Safer than a pipeline over dry ground, through a reasonably stable part of the planet....
     
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    More melodrama.. that's not going to happen.. and nobody expects to go green overnight.

    Have you ever heard of doubled walled supertankers.. They plow the seas year round every day.
     
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    Ayuh, which is still not nearly as Safe as a pipeline over dry ground...
     
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    So we've established that SOME oil is OK AND you know exactly how much (and you won't be growing your own food).

    Wish I were that smart.
     
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    Of course not. Can only hope this stupid act of Obama helps send him back to Chicago. :bump::bump::bump:
     
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    The political calculus here is that the President believes he can fire up the liberal base by showing himself to be a strong executive that can stand up to obstructionist Republicans in Congress. Note the focus of this rejection--it's entirely about the arbitrary time limit Congress imposed on the decision. This is a political play to show himself as someone able to oppose the Republicans. It won't even stop the pipeline, because TransCanada has already planned to resubmit, this time without the insane Congressional deadline. And they'll get their pipeline anyway. All that the Republicans accomplished was getting a few months' delay in the process of approval.

    As usual, the business and opinion media is trying to overstate the importance of the environmental lobby. Noone in Washington gives two (*)(*)(*)(*)s about the environmental lobby. This was not about appeasing environmentalists, this was about appeasing liberals, whom Obama has severely disappointed.
     
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    I did not realize that solar panes, wind turbines and geothermal energizing were all used in the 18th century...
    Plz think before posting
     
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    Could you try to use logic?
    Me wanting to switch of oil/coal because it kills millions of people and costs trillions is an invalid goal just because society uses oil currently.
    However iI total support yours and anyone's free speech rights to go on posting posts that make them look like a ranting lunatic
     
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    Ayuh,... None of which are even remotely possible at Replacin' oil in the foreseeable future....

    We need oil Now...

    If, 'n When alternative sources become viable, Then, 'n only Then should We consider movin' away from oil...
     
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    I think many should read up on that pipeline a little more and see just how many jobs are really created by this pipeline. I have posted it before, but obvious many never read it.
     
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    The reason that you don't realize that we have viable alternatives to oil and coal is because you're stuck in the 18th century
     
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    Because you oppose it, doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Canada will sell to America or China, and I choose America.

    Since when do you speak for all of Canada? I did my research, and find that the fringe nuts who oppose the pipeline have no immediate answer to fulfill the energy needed here in the United States.

    Just curious of any mention in the major news networks, or even Wikipedia about First Nations, why is that? The only mention I can find of First Nation, are on left loon blogs, so it seems First Nation are about as significant as a fly on a turd.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline
     
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    Oh please sun god, tell us what energy you have stored to fulfill need for the 6+ billion humans on this planet.

    The truth is, the liberal loon eco-nuts want to send us back to the 18th century.
     

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