Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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  1. micfranklin

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    MLK didn't give orders to kill people or wreak havoc, nor was anything he said even close to it. What exactly about MLK's speeches were racebaiting?

    Again, correlation does not equal causation.
     
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    Looks like you missed my message again. Ask all the black race rioters from the sixties why they used the race turmoil of the times and of the MLK speeches as to why they continue to race bait. Those blacks as well as today's blacks just can't seem to let dying dogs die.
     
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    Using MLK speeches =/= MLK causing violence.
     
  4. Libhater

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    Yup, those old negative traditions are hard to break. Today's blacks just can't seem to let the slavery and jim crow issues die as well. What type of reparation do you seek, mcfrickfrac? Have you used our affirmative action or quota policies yet? Have you used racial profiling as a defense for a crime you once committed?
     
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    Are you saying all of that because I keep telling you why your argument(s) are full of (*)(*)(*)(*)?
     
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    Zook was right, no one can debate a blockhead. :omg:
     
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    This is why I refuse to debate black "people" on racial issues. There's literally no point...

    I don't know why you bother.
     
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    I made a committment to myself that I would help all blacks and liberals to find the right direction in life. I didn't realize that helping these lost souls would be such a chore. But when the blockheads refuse to get the message, I guess its time to give up on them. Part of me also enjoys using examples, life experiences, charts/statistics and or comparisons via debate to make these people look so foolish. Well, mcfric had a good run for as long as it lasted, but I surmise he's a young fella who if he gets in with the right crowd--will still have a chance to change his destructive ways.
     
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    I understand the liberal part (although it's a long shot) but you're never going to teach a black about any racial reality. They're delusional and they believe their own lies.

    This is why I think it's pointless Herman Cain doing a lie-detector test. He'll pass. Not because he's innocent. But because they're simply not like us. They can fabricate a story in their tiny minds and to them it's 100% accurate. To a black, they've never lied in their lives. We racial realists call it "I'ze di'int do nuffins."

    You're wasting your time debating racial issues with black "people."
     
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    Hmm, something we can all agree on.
     
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    How the hell do you know I have destructive ways? How do you know if I have or haven't used racial profiling for anything? Are you and Zook (*)(*)(*)(*)ing psychics now?
     
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    Okay, you try being a slave for 400 years and not be pissed off at white people. the fact is, you white supremacists got what was coming to you. everybody has their breaking point. I used to hate black people, but i woke up and realized racism was a sick and twisted game the elite was playing on humanity to devide and conquer us, as a species... BTW, I am white. I work at a historically black college.
     
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    Who the hell was a slave for 400 years?? What's his name?

    We're not White-Supremacists at all. The fact that we don't like black "people" because they contribute more crime, violence and destruction than anything else doesn't make us White-Supremacists, it makes us sane human beings.

    One thing you did get right is everyone has their breaking points and civilized human beings are only going to take being victims of an unacceptable black crime epidemic for so long.

    I also refuse to believe you were once a racist. It takes an astuteness and mental awareness to be a racist and those are things you don't lose, no matter how much liberal brainwashing you fall victim to.
     
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    Being a cluster(*)(*)(*)(*) of a person is not astuteness or awareness, especially when you yourself are biracial.
     
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    A close look at history will note that the urban race riots and the rise of the Black Panther Party grew out of racism and its deprivation of blacks in urban America. More specifically riots in L.A. , Detroit, and Newark were caused by police brutality against blacks. It was not incitement by King or even Black Power activists.
     
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    What exactly is this deprivation you speak of? And are you saying that these Black Panthers were completely innocent of creating the black city riots of the sixties? These are the people along with MLK's fiery speeches are what caused the riots and our sordid history in dealing with black induced racial tension in America.
     
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    from a marxist socialist like martin luther king to a nationalist socialist we can agree that one of our big enemies are the capitalists and that is the more difficult issue to deal with.

    however social justice must first be fixed such as racial integration etc...before we can tackle that because socialism is dependent on the collective and if they are divided along racial lines that is what keeps us vulnerable

    so the capitalist sees national socialists and marxist socialist divided on simple things like racial lines and they are able to capitalize on the division of both groups very easily.

    socialists must unite against capitalists as the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
     
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    more loony leftist agitprop. Socialists must unite against capitalists? Say what? Our American economy is facing the worse ever condition leading to eventual bankruptcy because of the socialists and their leader Hussein overspending and over regulating the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of us and out of our Capitalist-oriented businesses. These capitalists are either sitting on their money or spending it overseas where they find a more favorable business climate that is devoid of these taxes and regulations. So you couldn't be more wrong with your assessment of Capitalists being the enemy. :puke:
     
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    national socialists favor racial segregation, capitalism is the wrong side to be on for segregationists

    socialists should unite together against them first before they go after each other.
     
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    Dr. King, one of my heroes. A man of courage, yet a man of peace.
    One of my favorites...

    A great man indeed.
     
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    Fair Warning.
    Focus on the topic and not on individual posters.


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    Dr. King did not cause race riots. People rioted because they were often under the influence of the Black Panthers. Dr. King lead nonviolent marches. He professed nonviolence and encouraged others to do the same.

    You say that if Black people wanted their civil rights they should have gone back to Africa. Well, funny you mention that. African-American author Richard Wright left the USA during the 1930's and spent the remainder of his life in Paris. Some Black people actually went to the Soviet Union.

    If the KKK controlled the town, I would have been trying to form a resistance movement against the KKK. If I die, I die. I would rather be dead than have the KKK control the town. Why should I have to "know my place"? Why can't I just be my individual self? I'm an intellectual, a poet, a nerd, someone who will date anyone of any race, a Christian, the "non-stereotypical Black guy". No one is going to tell me what "my place" is. Why should I live under tyranny? Tell me, how does any of that help ME??
     
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    You're an extreme rarity and believe it or not I actually admire you for that and I do truly feel for you. I've known blacks like you growing up. I grew up in majority black neighborhoods my entire life and have met and befriended thousands of blacks. I could probably count on one hand the amount I've met who were genuinely good, honest, hard-working, intelligent people like you.

    It's just not good enough.

    It's not your fault and I do feel your pain. But it's not our fault for finding that 1% or 2% of the black population are civilized.

    You need to blame your "brothers" and "sisters" for this divide before you blame racists.

    As for Martin Luther King. I didn't say he directly caused or started riots. I'm not saying he even wanted things to come to that. But as a somewhat intelligent person, he should've known what would happen if blacks were given equal rights. Since blacks were given equal rights we've seen hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians murdered and raped. Millions upon millions violently robbed and a significant number of the American population destroyed by drugs. We've seen every single Martin Luther King Boulevard or Drive become a hotspot for violent crime and death. Oh the irony...

    Whether you like it or not, Martin Luther King is the cause of all this. Of course he didn't intend to. I'm certain his heart was in the right place, pity his brain wasn't. Blacks and Whites can never live side by side in peace and harmony. If MLK wanted to do good he would've sought tax money to take his tribe back to Africa to start afresh. Countless innocents would still be alive if we introduced peaceful segregation and stuck to it instead of giving unequal "people" equal rights.

    We can't help that the majority of blacks are uncivilized, violent and no-good. Nor can you. It's just an unfortunate situation for us all. It's why segregating and living among our own has many benefits for us all.
     
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    When you look at the statistics, only 1 to 2 percent of the Black population is responsible for alot of the violent crime. There were 1,246,248 violent crimes committed in 2010. There are 40 million Blacks in the USA If half of them were committed by Blacks, then that would be about 623,124 offenses. There are also other things to consider. Some criminals kill more than one person and some rape more than one person. Some criminals assault more than one person. With that considered, then number of Blacks committing violent crimes would go down slightly. Only about 1.5% of the Black population is committing violent crimes. That doesn't sound like a majority to me.

    I will say it again. The Black Panthers had alot to do with the violence. The riots happened under the influence of the Black Panther Party. The Civil Rights Act didn't cause the violence to go up. The mentality of many Black people was changing. Many Blacks were getting to the point where they didn't care anymore, where they had nothing to lose. They didn't want to be told "to know their place". They were tired. The violent crime that would go up was mainly a result of the drug trade. The 1960's was also the point where alot of factories started to lay off people. Alot of Blacks were employed in factories. When those jobs dried up, Blacks were effected disproportionally. With unemployment rates rising, and drugs flooding many neighborhoods, the crime rate rose too. How did cocaine get into Black neighborhoods? Why wasn't cocaine getting distributed to alot of White neighborhoods? Last time I checked, cocaine is an expensive drug and it has to come in from Latin American. Gangs were getting into the drug trade to get money. No amount of jail time would have stopped that. The mentality of Blacks was changing BECAUSE they were tired of not being treated like USA citizens, and part of the change came from radical groups. Dr. King had nothing to do with any of that.

    The divide between Blacks and Whites was there BEFORE the Civil War started. Blacks were thought of as inferior people, suited to be nothing more than slaves. Blacks didn't want to be slaves. I wouldn't blame Black slaves for rebelling or running away. Who wants to be a slave? The divide didn't come because of "Blacks behaving badly". It came before that. Slavery was a big part of this.

    Dr. King didn't demand for Blacks to be sent back to Africa because he felt this was his nation. He was born and raised here, as was the rest of the Black population during that time. Black people felt that if they could fight a war to free other people from their oppressors, then they shouldn't be oppressed in their own nation, they should be able to vote, go to school wherever they please, have the same rights as everyone else. The general idea was "our ancestors were the slaves who helped build this nation, off of our backs, and we didn't get a cent of it. We have as much right to be here as anyone else".

    Repatriation would not work. It wasn't working for Liberia because Liberia was a nation drawn without the consideration of the local population. You already had different tribes living there and they knew no concept of a "Liberia". They knew their own lands. In a word, it was a takeover. Lincoln wanted to repatriate Blacks to Central America. There are already nations down there, and Lincoln got assassinated. Even with Blacks making up a majority of the population in many places of the South, the land was essentially owned by Whites who were unwilling to give up the land.

    Here is a question I have. What would help ME??
     

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