Republicans are the party of racism

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  1. Kobie

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    Grow up.
     
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    From Wiki, their source cited there.

    How crazy is that? National government radio bans certain political speech.
     
  3. Kobie

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    It's not "political speech." It's a slur. Every journalistic outlet in the world has certain verboten phrases. But leave it to the oh-so-persecuted right to have your favorite pejorative branded as the schoolyard taunt that it is.
     
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    If you are so serious, answer one question:

    Why does the Democratic party think minorities are not as capable of whites when it comes to carrying identification?
     
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    Not really. I use it because I know how much progressives don't like it.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point.
     
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    How is that a slur?? You guys call Republicans racist all day every day (hey check the thread you are in mr high ground), and then get all bent out of shape when a few letters are changed?

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    Why does the Democratic party think minorities are not as capable of whites when it comes to carrying identification?
     
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    For starters, I'm not a member of that party.

    Secondly, if you're referring to voter ID laws, that's not what the Democratic party "thinks," and that's an absolutely ludicrous oversimplification of the issue.
     
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    Of course that explains why a Democrat leader like Senator Robert Byrd
    was a verifiable Klansman.In fact a " Kleagle " or one who recruits and signed
    up members for $10 a head.
    Or maybe Bill Clintons mentor { J.William Fulbright } an admitted Segregationist.
    Like Al Gore Sr.Even J.F.K. voted nay on President Eisenhower's 1957
    civil rights bill.
    Of course I guess you have a nice comeback for all that.That 80% of Democrat
    senators voted down the 1957 civil rights bill.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    That is exactly what they think. They have been calling voter ID laws a move by republicans to suppress the minority vote.

    Please explain why it is ludicrous, and go into detail. Insults and dodges are OK, but democrat vs democratic is a big thing we have to worry about?
     
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    He will say the parties switched and point to one guy and ignore the hundred that stayed. Then fail to show a switch in te Republican Party platform.

    Otherwise it may be a dodge and say "I am not a member of that party" which begs 2 questions:

    Why are you defending them?
    Why won't you just say throw the bad ones under the bus then and admit they have always favored racially charged laws?
     
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    and what party did Martin Luther King belong too when he was killed..I cant remember
     
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    i will make this easy for you since you were probably just sperm in those days..he was a member of the republican party..and many in his family are still very active in the republican party..
     
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    Southerns were the driving force behind the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act. 76% of Southern Democrats in Congress voted against the VRA, 99.5% of Northern Democrats voted for it (only 1 Northern Democrat voted no - Rep. Paul Jones from Missouri). At the time, there were only 18 Southern Republicans (as opposed to 103 Southern Democrats). Of those 18 Southern Republicans, all but one voted against the VRA (William Cramer from Florida). 100% of Northern Republicans voted in favor of the VRA.

    As Johnson predicted, the Democratic Party's emphasis on the Civil Rights Movement lost them the South. In 1965, 86% of Southern Congressmen were Democrats. Today, 71% of Southern Congressmen are Republicans. Since the election of 1968, a Democratic Presidential Candidate has only been able to win more than 4 of the 11 former confederate states one time (in 1976 when Carter won all 11, and then lost all but Georgia in 1980).
     
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    There is NO longer any Jim Crow.That was a tenacious and viciously cruel and
    indoctrinated method used by Klansman.There is no Klan any longer.
    The Klan was about the worst thing this country ever faced.Klan night
    Riders and secret meeting to track down and lynch blacks was this Country's
    worst history.We're way past that.It still existed to degree in the South in the\
    60's but eventually it waned.Because it was plainly stupid.Holding blacks back
    was no longer fun & games.It was starting to appear more than cruel and sadistic but
    evil.Films played a big part in deconstructing the South's narrative over racial
    superiority.Movies like - The Intruder - { 1962 } and - Black Like Me - {1964}
    and especially - In the Heat of the Night - { 1967 }.
    other films like - Nothing But a Man - { 1964 } and - A Raisin in the Sun - { 1961 }
    helped to portray the negro { 50's term } as a person of substance.
    Jim Crow was a scourge on the human condition,especially in the south.
    Forgetting not the south was controlled,lock stock and barrel by Democrats and
    Dixiecrats.
    Of course todays Dimocrats are feverishly trying to escape that moniker.
    Like it never happened.
    Ya gotta as yourself when someone tries so hard to convince you
    of something you know is untrue.Now ... why would they do that.
    Why does a used car salesman try so hard to convice you that Jalopy
    over there was owned by a little old lady and only driven to church on
    sundays.
    Because that is Obama's Modus Operandi ... also.
    Beware of false prophets and the jalopy they drove in on.
     
  16. Ronstar

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    yeah, and Republicans refused to allow a national holiday honoring MLK until the mid-1980s.

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    prove it, with evidence.
     
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    And if he were alive today, he'd still be fighting for "equality" as many are doing, even now.
     
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    I'll take your bait:

    1. Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK. And he was a Democrat. True. But being a member of the Democratic party really wasn't unusual for his time frame and his location. He was born in 1917 in Virginia (a former confederate state), was raised in West Virginia. It was certainly common for pro-segregation Southerners to be a part of the Democratic Party. It was not until the 1940's and 1950's that the party really started to become more progressive, something that many Southern Democrats took a strong dislike to (Strom Thurmond, for example). Additionally, Senator Byrd apologized profusely throughout his life for his involvement with the KKK.

    2. Similarly, J. William Fulbright was a Senator from Arkansas, also a former confederate state. Again it was not unusual for him to be a part of the Democratic party, being pro-segregation and from the South.

    3. I would not say that Al Gore, Sr. was a segregationist, though he was a Southern Democrat. Senator Gore voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1957 (one of only 5 Southern Democrats in Congress to do so), he also voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1960 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. He did vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was a segregationist (Barry Goldwater, who was a Republican in favor of integration also voted against the act, as he thought it was an intrusion on states' rights. This view was shared by many Southern Democrats, winning Goldwater 5 of the 11 former confederate states in the 1968 Presidential election).

    4. JFK voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1957. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/85-1957/s75

    5. And last but not least. Only 46% of Democratic Senators voted against the CRA of 1957. Nowhere near 80%. Additionally, of that 46%, 91% were Democrats from the South. Only 11 Northern Democrats voted no.
     
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    I can certainly show you a switch in the Democratic party platform and the results that it had.

    In 1948, President Truman placed a civil rights plank in the Democratic party platform. During a speech by Hubert Humphrey at the 1948 Democratic National Convention, which discussed "walk[ing] forthrightly into the bright sunshine of human rights," many Southerners walked out. They would later form a new party, known as the Dixiecrats. That same year they nominated Strom Thurmond (who would later become a Republican) as their presidential nominee. Thurmond would win 4 former confederate states in the 1948 election: Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and North Carolina.

    In 1964, President Johnson would predict that the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would hand the South over to the Republican party. He was right. In 1965, 85% of Southern Congressmen were Democrats. In 2013, 71% of Southern Congressmen are Republicans. From 1880 to 1944, the Democratic Party won every state in the South for every Presidential election except one (1928 where the Democratic nominee was a Catholic from New York who was anti-prohibition). Now, the South is resolutely red.
     
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    Not even sure why that is relevant. The 1979 bill did not make it out of the House, so it never came in front of either the Democratic controlled Senate or President Carter. The House was controlled by the Democrats in both 1979 and 1983. In 1979, only 28% of the House Republicans voted in favor of an MLK holiday. In 1983, that number almost doubled to 54%. Democrats voted in favor at 87% in 1979 and at 95% in 1983.
     
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    I didn't hear a policy switch on the republican side.

    The democrats did switch policies. No denying that. But now they support racially charged laws for everyone else.

    LBJ who blocked the civil rights act of 1957 also said "if we pass this the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s will vote for us for the next 200 years". What a guy. Every policy he backed was also a failure. One of the worst presidents in our history if not they worst.

    Called it that you would pick that one guy that switched. The rest of the democrats stayed though for awhile until they lost as racism became passé. Racial violence and hate crimes in the south fell at about the rate republicans took over. Now we have less hate crimes then the northern and western states where the Dems run the place and have a few race riots under their belt.
     
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    There is a party of reverse racism, the Democrats, and a party of no racism at all the Republicans. But to the party whose policy is largely reverse racism no rascism at all is now spoken of as racism.
     
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    Where on Earth do you get yer disinformation.
    ALL southern Democrats voted against the Civil rights Act of 1964.
    While 82% of Republicans in the Senate voted for the Act { 27 for,6 against }
    compared to 69% of Democrats { 46 for,21 against }.
    yes,Al Gore Sr. did vote For the 1957 Civil Rights act but against the 1964 act
    and also participated in the 74 day filibuster to delay and weaken the Civil
    Rights act..Senator John Kennedy cast a " procedural vote " in
    1957.It was a technical vote that neither supports or opposes a bill.
     
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    there is no such thing as a democrat party only sheep and idiots use that phrase
     
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    What a pecksniffian, addlepated, pedantic and utimately irrelevant response.
     

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