Muslims see ‘foreign law’ bill as attack on Shariah

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  1. BestViewedWithCable

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    Um.. Im pretty sure they do, and theyre lying.
     
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    If you can't be bothered to back up anything you say, don't respond.
     
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    There have been many recent court battles related to the States trying to introduce laws that would prevent any (not just Islamic) religious law from being a deciding factor in court cases, and each one has been fought hard by Muslim pressure groups like CAIR. One of these laws passed in Oklahoma, and a judge declared it unconstitutional because it singled out "Sharia" law by name. Since then, quite a few other states have attempted this legislation without naming Sharia, but they are still being tied up in court.

    For some reason, Muslims in this country don't like the idea of Sharia being kept out of the court system.
     
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    Tennessee tried to pass a law that would've effectively banned Islam because of how it was written. Maybe if these laws weren't so retarded they wouldn't have trouble in the courts or be opposed by people like CAIR.
     
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    Please explain how that law would have "banned Islam".
     
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    From your own article

    Anything else?

    Out for the night.
     
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    You skip a very significant next step in the argument in singling out a specific religious group for higher penalties for the same crimes.
    I don't care if its extremist Muslim Jihadists or Right Wing Christian terrorists blowing up my fellow citizens and buildings, BOTH groups should get the same penalties.
     
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    Is that why you ran away from the specific points and just replied to the entire thing? lol so predictable.

    Another lie and easily disproven

    Under sharia's civil code, a woman's testimony is worth half of a man's. A man can divorce his wife by repudiation, whereas a woman must give justifications, some of which are difficult to prove. Child custody reverts to the father at a preset age; women who remarry lose custody of their children even before then; and sons inherit twice the share of daughters.

    Where is your evidence that women are equal in Sharia Law when it comes to divorce? Quote it. Back up your claims just one time. I provide mine each and every time. Shock everyone here and do the same.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jul/05/sharia-law-religious-courts

    I have read many parts of it. And I post quotes to support my claims. You NEVER support your claims and simply rely on the classic liberal "I'm smarter than you so I don't have to back myself up" intellectual cowardice to carry you through these debates.

    Let's see your evidence.
     
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    Where is Islam or Sharia law mentioned anywhere in the bill? Quote it for us.
     
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    A woman can divorce her husband if he breaks the terms of the marriage contract which SHE writes or if he fails sexually, mistreats her or can't provide for her.


     
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    Hardly just one place.



    Muslims to defend sharia law in NY, NJ, Texas

    Defend meaning promote. It’s part of terror-linked ICNA’s National Sharia Campaign featuring the grandson of the founder of the infamous Muslim Brotherhood. The ‘Islamic Circle of North America’ or ICNA seeks an Islamic super-state governed by sharia law.

    The campaign and this sharia roadshow is the Muslim response to Americans who are becoming increasingly aware of Islamic sharia law and its encroachment into U.S. courts, and want it banned.


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    Now what agent? Still going to ignore the push is happening in multiple areas around the US?
     
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    So you quote nothing, provide no links to support any of the bs you are spewing.

    Nor could you refute anything I said or supported with fact.

    Typical Margot.

    And you want people to take your claims seriously?
     
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    Who is the grandson of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood?

    I just know how things work because I have talked with lots of Saudi women over the years.
     
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    When it comes to the wife initiating a divorce it is a whole different issue. It’s not even called divorce, it’s called khula which literally means taking off as in taking off clothes or jewelry. What the woman has to do is prove that the husband did something. Abuse whether physical or verbal does not get a woman far in court even with a medical report because the Saudi judges tend to believe that she probably did something to provoke it. The only proof that will absolve the woman and get her treated favorably is one of three; proof that the husband is a drug addict, has AIDS or being a daughter of a VIP. Otherwise the process is stressful, expensive and might lead to her never seeing her children again. In one case the judge and his assistants demanded from the wife that she detail her husband’s performance in bed. Another woman had to pay her dowry back in full after more than a decade of marriage and four children. Some of those years she financially supported her then husband and yet she still had to give back the money he spent on her as a young bride and give up child custody completely. To rub salt into injury, she was hushed in court while listening to the guy tell everyone there including her father and brothers how horny she was and that she wouldn’t be doing this unless she had someone else in mind to marry.
     
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    Still no proof or facts to support anything you are claiming.

    Unbelievable you want people to take you seriously.
     
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    I spent several decades in Arabia and have visited since then.. I know alot of Saudi men and women and we have discussed these things.
     
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    Oh yeah? I spent 40 years living with Sinbad as his personal chef

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    and was the personal body guard of Ali Baba and the 40 thieves!

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    My make believe credentials top yours :sun:

    Are you going to continue to post rediculus unproven credentials or are you going to start posting actual FACTS to support your arguments?
     
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    You mean David Atkins Sinbad???

    I have no intention of telling you my name..

    Take it or leave it.. I don't care.
     
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    I never once asked for your name genius.

    So you aren't going to post facts to support your arguments, just more useless unproven claims of knowledge.

    Thanks for staying predictable.
     
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    When we have to pass laws to make judges reject case law from Iran we need new judges.
     
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    Read the Koran.. talk to a Muslim judge.. Talk to Muslims.. if you are actually INTERESTED in the subject matter.
     
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    What a ridiculous bill. Waste of time.

    All the problems in Michigan, and lawmakers are wasting their time on agreements by consenting adults to have their disputes settled via arbitration by a particular set of rules?
     
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    Case law from Iran? What are you talking about?
     
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    Bingo! Islam is a political, nazi style system, disguised as a religion. Any American who defends Sharia Law is anti-women rights. Yes, that means you leftists. Any lefty who defends Sharia Law as just, is 10 fold the worst hypocritical on the planet. This includes any feminists as well.
     

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