Evidence: Barack Obama / IRS Attack on Conservatives Involvement

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  1. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    In the midst of interviews of IRS employees.....and with 88 or more to go:

    The IRS itself has blown Lerner’s story apart, saying that as many 88 employees are being looked at. The agency is still evidently trying to contain the scandal to its lower ranks, but the deposed IRS agents say they were following orders from those above them.
    Q: Did anyone else ever make a request that you send any cases to Washington?
    A: [Different IRS employee] wanted to have two cases that she couldn’t ‑‑ Washington, D.C. wanted them, but she couldn’t find the paper. So she requested me, through an email, to find these cases for her and to send them to Washington, D.C.
    Q: When was this, what time frame?
    A: I don’t recall the time frame, maybe May of 2010.
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    Q: But just to be clear, she told you the specific names of these applicants.
    A: Yes.
    Q: And she told you that Washington, D.C. had requested these two specific applications be sent to D.C.
    A: Yes, or parts of them.
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    Q: Okay. So she asked you to send particular parts of these applications.
    A: Mm‑hmm.
    Q: And that was unusual. Did you say that?
    A: Yes.
    Q: And she indicated that Washington had requested these specific parts of these specific applications; is that right?
    A: Correct.

    Congress has a ways to go to prove this, and it needs to stay focused on getting at the truth before jumping to any conclusions in public, but the nature of the questions the IRS asked of its targeted groups read like political opposition research — in other words, political campaign activity. Someone was digging for deep ideological, organizational and membership information on these groups that opposed Obama agenda. “Rogue agents” who are career government workers are not going to come up with questions like that on their own, but someone who bounced back and forth between the Obama campaign and his White House might. Several Obama confidants did that, including David Axelrod and Bob Bauer. Keep that in mind when Axelrod opines on the subject: He may have been involved in it."
     
  2. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    At a minimum, Obama set the tone for what he wanted. None of this is coincidental, folks. See how he went after AFP publically and by name, for instance....and then the IRS did.

    "....questions about motives, structure, and donors," from both Obama and the IRS.



    • “There are groups with harmless sounding names, like Americans for Prosperity…” – President Obama, August 2010
    • Video Compilation: Obama attacks Americans for Prosperity by name over and over in the Summer of 2010. WATCH HERE
    IRS GRILLS TEA PARTY ABOUT ASSOCIATION WITH AFP



    Read more: http://americansforprosperity.org/newsroom/afp-obama-connected-to-irs-harassment/#ixzz2VHIhA3T4
     
  3. Montoya

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    Correct I am not paying attention to conspiracy theories and conjecture.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    These tea party groups frankly deserved it.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Good to see that you ARE paying attention to this thread.....

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    Really? How so. EXACTLY.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Be patient. It was a long time before we got to the bottom of the Nixon issue. This thing has just begun. Lots more people to put under oath; lots more e-mails and correspondence to obtain and examine.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    So you have nothing, you are just hoping and praying that your Government is corrupt? You seem like a good human being, lol. Despicable!
     
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    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    They are corrupt, they targeted people based upon their beliefs. MLK would be outraged over this, Jefferson, outraged, JFK, outraged...liberal left today, Rejoices.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    So you are still just making stuff up? I see there is no decency in you.
     
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    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/17/irs-tea-party_n_3293526.html

    Its ok to believe your own eyes. Even after Obama tells you not to.
     
  12. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's amazing to witness what utter scumbags the some Liberals have devolved into. They are 100% alright with the Government lying to "We the People", as long as it benefits their ideology. They are whacked in the head scary people.
     
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    What did the Govt lie about?

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    Yes, we understand they made a list with common conservative political group names. Now where is the corruption and why would MLK and Jefferson be outraged that a group of IRS employees that is tasked with reviewing social welfare tax exemptions looking for political motivated groups. You do realize how crazy you sound right? Or do you truly believe what you say?
     
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    :roflol:Well dude...your in the same boat. You don't have any proof he isn't guilty.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    No, I'm not in the same boat. I'm not accusing him of anything, so there is nothing I have to prove.
     
  16. Montoya

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    Simple, when you advocate tax avoidance and constantly spew downright violent rhetoric all under the guise of slogans like "strict constitutional principles" and "taking back America" you deserve to be put under a microscope.

    Besides they were political groups trying to get tax exempt status. Theres no way anything with "Patriot" or "Tea Party" in their group name has anything to do with social welfare.
     
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    :roflol:All your doing is defending his innocence. So prove it dude.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    So, what about Occupy Wall Street? Anything political there?
     
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    They were targeted as well. By the FBI, Police, CIA....Far worse than the IRS. And in the end these tea party groups were approved.

    I think you will be surprised when you find out how little the public cares, especially since its the tea party which is overwhelmingly unsupported in the country.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    No, most of the Tea party groups have not been approved....even now.

    And BTW, on Occupy Wall Street.....they weren't targeted for their political beliefs and they weren't held up on their application. The police and FBI and CIA only had to get involved whenever they broke a law----busted up someone's business.....or blocked streets, etc. They WERE actually breaking laws.....unlike the Tea Party Groups who were simply applying for a tax status available to others. BTW, Occupy Wall Street is a 501c3 organization. They got their tax-exempt status.

    And you didn't answer my question. IS Occupy Wall Street political?
     
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    Maybe by people you know. I think most people DO care. Republicans eventually told Nixon that they would no longer support him and that he should either resign or be impeached. He resigned......ONLY because Republicans STOPPED supporting him. They did the RIGHT thing after finding out all that he did. IF we find out on this deal that it does go all the way to the top....and the Obama administration used the IRS against their poltiical enemies.....regular American citizens.....are you STILL going to be supporting him? Are will you be supporting him....no matter what he does or did?
     
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    No it is evidence of the head of the IRS, which is suppose to be completely non-political and detached from politics and especially from the political wing of the Obama administration attended meetings with Obama and his political wing. The question is why was he meeting with the Presidents political adviser?
     
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    Why is it so difficult for people in the government to be decent, moral persons? Obama didn't run for president because of a desire to help people, he got elected because his constituents want to use him to hurt people. That is the extent of it, everything else is a superfluous mask of good intentions for the sake of keeping up appearances, however the core is rotten. It's kind of like, you can just tell when a person has been drinking, even if they can hide it well enough, you can still smell it on them. Corruption in government is the same way, the only people who seem unable to notice are those in denial about it, and they have some attitude about it, unwilling to own up to it, unwilling to accept responsibility for electing criminals to office. But, that's what happens when people are driven by emotional whims without thinking it all the way through.
     
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    Congrats....having two people in the same room together is definitely evidence of a conspiracy.

    You people have to be kidding right?
     
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    Its not innuendo, it is reasonable cause to further investigate her involvement.
     

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