Rubio and gang of 8 unveil bipartisan immigration plan.

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  1. jackdog

    jackdog Well-Known Member

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    a couple of years ago one of the black State Senators nailed it, it did not go over too well but I am surprised it did not catch more national attention


    http://urbangrounds.com/2011/02/sen-robert-ford/

    he pretty much called all Americans lazy and judging by how many of us collect welfare now I am beginning to think he is correct. Just look at the last elections, the I am going to give you free stuff candidate won don't he ?
     
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    Why the sarcasm? You act like LA isnt already part of Mexico....
     
  3. jackdog

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    back in the mid 80's I always called San Diego Tijuana Heights, for some reason San Diego residents took offense

    Maybe we could just sell California to Mexico using one of those TV infomercials, But wait there is more, act now and we will throw in Nancy Pelosi and Feinstein for free
     
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    If the RNC and the Big Money boys think Rubio can win Latino votes and get them back into the Oval Office......they'll annoint Marco as Nominee.

    And the anti-Rubio types will have a few candidates thrown at them (versions of Newt, Santorum, etc.) ....and Marco, like Mitt, will win on plurality wins in the primaries until he become "inevitable" and the delegate count is too insurmountable.

    And all these Nativists will bite their tongues....say "Well? So? _____, that Commie Dem would be EVEN WORSE on immigration" and "So? With a GOP Congress, we can force Rubio to back down from a DREAM Act once he's elected"....etc....etc....etc.

    All the stuff they said about Romney. But in the end, in the voting booth...they will OBEY the RNC's orders.
     
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    I find that hard to believe.....

    In the end, in the voting booth, another democrat progressive communist will win, and America will descend into the depths of Greece.





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    Republican moderates are not going to win back the White House by pandering to illegal aliens.
     
  7. jackdog

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    While you are right I am afraid the freeloaders have us outnumbered these days Mac

    A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse doe to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

    now it is just a matter of which party can/will pander to the do nothing parasites
     
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    Agreed.

    But the worst thing Republicans can do is participate in the destruction of the country by being the "me too!" party.
     
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    What a bunch of morons, frauds, and sellouts.
    If illegals will willingly submit (<--LOL!) to "pay[ing] fines, back taxes and undergo[ing] a criminal background check", they can be rounded up and deported.
     
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    Oh, Of Course not.

    That is exactly why I said another democrat progressive communist will win.
     
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    This is just exactly like the price of gas.....

    No one in the government will ever do anything about that, cause the government is the one increasing the price of gas in America.

    They tax the crap outta gas, and thats the only reason why gas is $3.50 a gallon.

    No one in the government will ever do anything about illegal immigration, cause the one increasing illegal immigration is the Government.....

    The average American is a freaking idiot.




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  12. TomFitz

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    How are you going to tax someone who isn't here legally as a separate category without acknowledging their legal existance?

    Contrary to the rantings of some of the ill informed here, many illegal immigrants DO pay withholding taxes and FICA taxes. If they're signed up under a fake SS#, those taxes go straight to the treasury ,and the benefits they fund are never used by the person who paid the taxes.

    That is actually quite common.
     
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    This is how they geezed Reagan in 1986. The path to citizenship needs to come LAST if at all. Securing the border must come first with a 5 year waiting period to make sure it works or NO deal.
     
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    Welcome the club....
     
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    And if the illegals ever become citizens no sponsorship of their entire tribe back in Mexico to move here and collect welfare.

    Limit legal immigration to one skilled worker and their immediate family of spouse and children only.
     
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    yep we are headed toward a two tiered system, the rich political ruling class and the rest of us. It's sad that so many are willing to sellout having a chance to better themselves for a squalid apartment in a housing project and enough food stamps to buy some boxed mac and cheese. Of course they dream that the politicians will magically recognize their greatness and elevate them to Martha's Vinyard while they sit there and watch their TV's living vicariously through the celebrities and politicians
     
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    Put the tax on the wire transfers to any country south of the border.

    $4.2 billion a year in fraudulent child tax credits and the Democrats want to raise taxes to pay for it?
     
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    How you going to pay for this 'brilliant' plan?
     
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    pay? we already pay for it.

    Its called the LAW, and its why illegals are called illegal.

    Did you know, the primary duty of the President of the United States is to enforce the laws enacted by congress? Its true.

    I understand why you cant comprehend this, but I dont blame you, I blame the government and our president for not doing their sworn duty.
     
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    While the righties sit in a squalid single wide trailer eating the same boxed mac and cheese thinking that sending more our wealth to the top it will surely trickle down to thier trailer park and they too will hitch up the trailer move to martha's vineyard.
    We just need to cut taxes some more and it will happen.

    If either party has a goal of a two tired system, it's the right, just look at the legislation they have past in the last 30 years and see if you can't notice a trend.
    Conservatism is the problem,not the answer.

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    Childish insults aside, do you have an adult answer to the question or is party line BS all you've got?
    The 'plan' is to deport millions of people, how are you going to pay for that?
     
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    I did give you an adult answer, but youd have to be an adult to understand it.

    The 'plan' is already paid for, but our government refuses to do their duty, they swore to do.
     
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    Can a Liberal here or anyone who supports Amnesty, PLEASE explain the benefits to allowing 12 mil+ new citizens into the country? Just say it, because no one will. All we hear from Dems is how evil/racist Republicans are and how we have to be fair and we can't just kick people out, but EXPLAIN what the benefits are to keeping them all? What good does it do? All I can find out there is that we become more diverse, but there's no actual evidence that's a good thing. More like subjective touchy, feely B.S.

    Just say it. What is the benefit to the country?
     
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    Libs do not intend to help America but rather just the 12 million alien invaders within our border.
     
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    The influx of illegal aliens has been falling since the Bush years,

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    and the rate of deportation has soared since then.


    It won't be long until the Border Control's fleet of drones will require air traffic controllers, and US businesses will be desperate for cheap labour they can easily intimidate.
     
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    We didn't pay to bring them here, and we do not need to pay for them to leave. Take away all services and incentives for non citizens and they leave as they came...on their own pesos.
     

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