Two Americas Indeed.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by toddwv, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    interesting perspective.

    if this view is common, your society is doomed.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BS, most gun crime is due to drugs. You fool yourself if you think anyone has felt like they have had control of this country for generations. Carrying is about self defense, not self offense.
     
  3. Johnny-C

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    I can relate to the way people "feel". Even so, people are fooling themselves if they think/believe that more guns in the hands of more Americans will ever lead to more "security".
     
  4. Hoosier8

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    Because it is proven that gun free zones are so safe.
     
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    there is no life without liberty
     
  6. Iron River

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    So you are saying that no crime happens where you live.??

    To that we will all have to assume that you live in a cave with a couple of monks.

    How do you power your satellite phone to get on the internet?

    According to Zod's avatar he lives in comic book land. Nice until someone tears the pages out to wipe their butt with you.

    I have carried a hand gun for over 45 years and I got my Texas CHGL in the first month that they were available. In Texas it has been legal to carry if you were traveling and you could always shoot attackers in your home and in most cases when they were on your property. I have three or four occasions in those years when I thought that I may have to use a weapon to protect myself or others. In those occasions what made the difference was that the belligerent in the mix looked in my eyes he had no doubt in his mind that I would kill his ass without blinking an eye. The one time that I have had a gun pointed at me the guy with a pistol that would fit in your shirt pocket was lucky that I was in my brother's truck and I didn't have my gun or their could have been real trouble for that guy. His little pop gun wouldn't have penetrated my door if he could have hit my door from two feet with a 22 that had a one inch barrel. Had I had my 38 special I'm pretty sure that it would have had no trouble going through his convertible top.
     
  7. GeneralZod

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    Why are you online gun owners so paranoied?

    For me, personally i never need a gun and never will.

    Seems dangerous where you are with all that violence, old chap.
     
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    Zod finally chooses to be honest with himself, and with the forum.
     
  9. Subdermal

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    Apparently, the Japanese disagreed with you.
     
  10. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Paranoia is normal and everyone is paranoid, that is what keeps us alive. Now what you seem to be saying is that not being paranoid is a benefit. Life does not agree with you. Do you look before you cross the street? If you look, then you are paranoid. Do you ever lock your doors? If you do then you are paranoid.

    What you seem to assume is that because you are not normally paranoid that you are somehow superior.
     
  11. GeneralZod

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    Americans are gun CrAzY.

    Even the mention of reducing guns and god forbid, gunless society. Turns pro gun nuts into beserking beasts.

    Although do you feel sorry for them or pity them. As they can't see how to live their life unless they carry a gun of some sort.
     
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    Pray that I feel nothing more than pity for you.

    Because I'm the one with the gun. You're...defenseless and ripe for the picking.
     
  13. GeneralZod

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    Without a gun, you curl up into a ball and cry your eyes out.

    You rely on it too much.

    Yeah, you are all john wayne, whatever works.

    Don't go shooting yourselves.

    Peace.
     
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    Oh? You presume much. I'm pretty physically imposing, at 6'4" 220lbs. I also grew up in the inner city of Milwaukee. I think I understand bad crime, and dangerous areas.

    I've never once had to use my gun, or even pull it out of holster. How could I rely it too much?

    You don't understand the topic. Liberal brains don't.
     
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    Wow, you sure get your panties in a bunch Nancy. Methinks you protest too much.
     
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    It isn't self-defense if you chase somebody down and end up shooting them. Neighborhood watch people aren't supposed to be armed. The police dispatcher told Zimmerman to NOT follow him but he did anyway. The SYG law doesn't cover the circumstances of this murder.
     
  20. Hoosier8

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    Zod's fear of guns has nothing to do with the subject.

    I think this will be investigated and if the evidence appears to be what it seems to be, I think Zimmerman will have a problem but I will let the investigators and the courts decide that. Chasing someone down is not the same as stand your ground where you have the right to defend yourself if attacked and most Castle Doctrines are only valid defending your physical self in your own house, property, curtilage, or in your own car. Zimmerman also disobeyed police directions.
     
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    You keep forgetting that the Constitution is no longer applicable today in lieu of the Patriot Act. New rules, new game. Martial law is right around the corner....George flushed the Constitution...I don't know why you continue to refer to it as if it were actually relevant to anything except history.
     
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    I think what you mean to say is that there is no liberty for one who is deprived of life.
     
  23. submarinepainter

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    see that's your problem thinking for others:party:
     
  24. Meta777

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    Better to have that problem than to have the problem of not thinking at all.

    Tell me, do you really believe that government ought to give people the liberty to kill each-other regardless of the reason?
    Do you really believe that having the liberty to kill people who are not threatening your life is more important than life itself?

    I wont try to think for you this time, tell us all with your own words what it is you truly believe.
     
  25. Hoosier8

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    George flushed the constitution as any good progressive does, like Obama.
     

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