...And Yes, Barack Obama is a Marxist

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  1. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Is it me, or is it you defending Obama's communist beliefs?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jr9mLB3yKs"]Obama Constitution Negative Liberties.flv - YouTube[/ame]

    Sure looks like a Liar to me....

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hde4s-xBhqE"]Inauguration: Barack Obama Sworn in As 44th President - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, in fairness you need to get a shot of a Republican defecating on the American flag.

    What do you mean, 'you can't find one'?
     
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    B. Hussein Obama is a scummy, muslim-loving, unpatriotic, lying incompetent no matter what label you put on him! Those who support him are no better! :frown:
     
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    Nobody even reads my posts here, do they? Too long?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever your political stripe .. you have provided no evidence for your claims.

    This is my observation and now, based on this observation, you demonize by saying I am partisan.

    If you make a claim "Obama is the worse choice for President/best choice for President" then give some support for that claim.

    This is not an issue of partisanship but an issue of wanting folks on both sides to stop bashing the otherside on the basis of nonsense.

    Either you are for progress in this country or against it. Those who are against progress will continue meaningless diatribe.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More baseless rhetoric does not justify the initial spat of baseless rhetoric.

    All I have done is asked you to provide support for your claims and your first response is to demonize.

    If something is "truth" as you claim then you must have some kind of justification.

    All I have asked is what that justification is.

    We had a poster earlier cite "bulbs on the Whitehouse xmas tree". Did you have something better or is this sufficient.
     
  7. Ekko

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    Milton Friedman has stated that no society has achieved more than those that have been set free to pursue their own self interest. If by progress you mean further regulation or more government interventions, then I consider "progress" a bad apple.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100422165333AATbJMO

    Obama in his book Dreams of my Father Explained how he deliberately sought out radical communist Professors as mentors and for discussion. As well as foreign students of countries with radical totalitarian governments.

    Reverend Write ... Black liberation theologist, which is openly communist

    Van Jones, admitted communist radical, out of his own mouth

    Vallory Jaret, closest advisor, daughter of Frank Marshal
    Davis a communist radical with a long sheet, also a radical
    communist.

    Anita Dunn ... who's self professed favorite political philosopher was possibly the largest mass murder in human history: Chairman Mao!

    Cathleen Sabilias is a well known Socialist / Communist

    SEIU leader Andy Stern, Obama's closest non Cabinet Advisor, and closer than many of them. Most guest stays by far of anyone to the White House. Open Communist, "WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! It's not just a slogan he said, it's how we have to do business!"

    Lets not forget Bill Aeirs, he's a communist radical terrorist from the Weather Underground who killed people, and he and Obama started off Obama's political career together.

    Then Obama's love of Saul Alinski, who wrote the nasty eye opening book, Rules for Radicals. He lectured on him favorably in Colleges and has his book, that preaches communism and that the ends justify the means, so lie steal cheat, be violent or whatever it takes to destroy the economic framework of the US so it can be replaced with Communism.

    You have Science Czar Eric Holdren, Communist, and global climate alarmist, it's always the people's fault and they always have to give all power to government to fix it! And he's said this about Global Ice Ages coming in the past, now it's global warming. Before it was a huge ice buildup that we would cause that would fall into the ocean and kill all life within 200 miles of a coast! Now it's global warming! At least he's consistent lol

    Carol Browner, the head of this nation’s Environmental Protection Agency, is an unabashed Marxist.

    Hilda Solis, Obama’s Labor Secretary is not only a Marxist, she has ties to the Communist Party.

    Hillary Rodham-Clinton, this country’s Secretary of State, is a socialist. In fact, before Rodham finished high school, she was recruited by none other than Saul Alinsky, a socialist who had ties with the Chicago mob!

    Members of the U.S. Congress and Senate, who are Marxists. For example, Speaker of The House, Nancy Pelosi is a socialist, as is John Lewis, the civil rights icon to some.

    and of course there is always this...either he is deaf or doesn't like our flag:
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never meant or intended to mean any such nonsense.

    My claim was quite simple. If we want to have progress in this country we need to stop the baseless attacks and focus on real issues.

    I am all for attacks and do my fair share of attacking on a very regular basis but, when I do attack I give evidence in support of my claims.

    I am a Constitution loving Fiscal Conservative and Capitalist. I am against Government intervention in the lives of citizens and unnecessary regulation.
     
  11. Terrant

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    Oh but you certainly find countless ones where they are wearing it as a shirt. Let's not forget Chuck Norris' advocating that it be dunked in tea.
     
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    ...as would have done any patriot in Boston 300 years ago.
     
  13. rahl

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    which we've already proven you have no idea what you're talking about. you can't even define communism, let alone credibly call obama one
     
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    the onus is on YOU. YOU made the claim. you have yet to define marxism. it's not up to me to prove YOUR claim wrong. it's up to YOU to prove YOUR claim correct.
     
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    oh look, another baseless comment!!!
     
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    Many around here suffer from an inability to understand burden of proof and upon who it lies.
     
  17. rahl

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    the silly "guilt by association" argument has already been refuted. can YOU define communism, and provide specific examples that makes obama one?

    remember, associating with someone, doesn't make you the same as they are.

    I really wish someone making the claim, would actually know what they're talking about, and be able to support it. 17 pages now, and you people keep dodging and running away.
     
  18. Terrant

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    So you are fine with the desecration of our flag.
     
  19. Goldwater

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    The dictionaries actualy define socialism and marxism clearly.

    Socialism is a form of government that nationalizes private property, and controls the means of production. No private property, and no private ownership of businesses.

    Marxism is the transitional state between capitalism and socialism. You must have the nationalization of private assets and industry as your goal before anything that you do can be called "marxism"

    Raising taxes is not socialism. Bailing out auto manufacturers is not socialism. Passing healthcare reform isn't socialism. Establishing a single payer healthcare industry is not socialism.

    If Obama had socialism socialism is his goal, everything he does would be marxism. Obama hasn't declared that socialism is his goal....so nothing he does is marxsim.

    I know politics and logic don't always......well.....you know
     
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    What about (China) Communist-Capitalism ?

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oksH-TP-1mI"]Bachmann: We Should Be Less Socialist... Like China - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    how dare you inject intelligence into this thread. for shame sir
     
  22. Goldwater

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    Thanks for the compliment...but sometimes I feel like a wet blanket.

    Maybe just calling Obama a socialist is just hyperbole, but I'm not so sure on this thread.
     
  23. Talon

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    LOL - Were you expecting an announcement? :roll:

    Why do you think New Left Socialists refer to themselves as "progressives"?

    Connect the dots...
     
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    Sober up, or you won't even see the dots. Only right-wing nutters suppose 'progressives' are socialists, because like so many Americans they are politically illiterate. That is why they believe in so many plots: they can't understand the world because they are so unutterably ignorant, so they think the devil is at work. Very archaic and quaint, but dangerous in people armed to the teeth.
     
  25. Anikdote

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    Take a look at the political spectrum I posted earlier. Progressivism is actually a pretty huge leap to socialism. Progressivism is a liberal ideology, that's simply incompatible with the goals of socialism.
     

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