Z's First Court Appearance: He Lied Under Oath

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  1. SkyStryker

    SkyStryker Banned

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    He has Z's truck in wrong location and doesn't show his truck's path prior to getting out. The assumed paths are wrong because on the recorded call Z said T was heading towards the back entrance. It looks like this person copied the BS map from wagist.
     
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    Yes if you are at the north end of the cut through and someone runs south they are headed toward the back entrance. Are you blind?
     
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    Zimmerman could make out a button on T's shirt but all of a sudden couldn't see that well?
     
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    I've been looking over DeeDee's statements and it stinks. The phone just went dead right at the point where Dee-Dee could tell us who started it? How convenient? In a case like this some will lie others will tell half truths. The fact of the matter is that fiends, family and loved ones will never feel that its justified so they cant be trusted. I dot for one moment think the phone just went dead. I think that DeeDee heard things that she and Trayvon's family don't want anyone to know but she is more comfortable in telling a half truth instead of an outright lie. Saying the phone went dead just at the point that the fight would have taken place is very convenient for someone who isn't comfortable enough to tell an outright lie like Zimmerman started it.
     
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    She didn't even mention the call to the police or Trayvons family!!!!
     
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    Don't you think if Dee Dee wanted to lie she could've come up with something much more (*)(*)(*)(*)ing to Zimmerman than obscure ambiguous statements?

    Instead of "Why you following me?" followed by Z, "What are you doing here?"

    She could've said "Then the other voice said 'HERE NI66ER, you GONNA DIE!!!!'"

    The fact that her statements are ambiguous make them more believable.
     
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    So this girl, knew her boyfriend could have been murdered and never mentioned it at all, until Trayvons Dad, saw his phone records, and gave them to a lawyer, and thats only when she talked about this? Yeah right, Crystal Mangum Jr.
     
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    On the call Z said he was headed towards the back entrance. This map, which obviously copied the wagist map, is flat out wrong because the back entrance is down near where Trayvon was staying. There are two entrances to Twin Lakes. The front entrance and the back entrance:

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eading-to-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin.html

    On that aerial view you can see two ways to drive into the neighborhood. The front entrance is where the pool is, where Z was. The back entrance is down by where Trayvon was staying. Z said he was headed in that direction but the wagist map has Trayon going in the wrong direction and this guy copied from the wagist map that is obviously wrong. And you clearly don't know where the cut through is either.
     
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    You guys have been defending Z entirely on what he said, his dad said, and his brother. Now you want to claim family/close friends are too biased??????? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU????

    I'm dead serious. Wtf kind of mentality can swim in that cesspool hypocrisy???????

    She actually said it sound like Trayvon was pushed because his voice was interrupted and then the phone went dead. But don't stop cherry picking info now......
     
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    She is a 15 year old girl. . .her parents were probably not even aware she had a boy friend. She probably didn't say anything to her mom until she was contacted by Trayvon's family, after they discover that she was on the phone with Trayvon just one minute before he died!
     
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    That will fall on deaf Z supporter eyes. They act like she knew he got shot that night. They have no idea when she found out what happened or when and they don't care. There is nothing about her testimony that is suspicious but they overlook Z's dad (a proven liar on this case) saying that Trayvon told Z "You gonna die tonight if you have a piece." What was the other bit? "You got a problem home?" Then Z had to "reach for" the phone he was holding less than 60 seconds earlier. Z was expecting the cops to call him any minute but he put his phone away???? Goodness......I cannot wait for this to go to trial and I hope they stream it live so we can see Z start crying like a baby when the prosecutor tears him a new one on the stand.
     
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    Sorry, but the claim that her phone "went dead" exactly when the conflict heated up, is more than a bit dubious...
     
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    What are deaf eyes?
     
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    You mean, it is suspicious that, if someone is pushed, a phone may fall and go dead?
    By the way, the time at which the phone call ended is NOT an ASSUMPTION. . .it is based on the PHONE RECORDS!

    DUH!
     
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    We don't know exactly what part of the conversation that was,or what was heard before, do we? DUH!
     
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    The ONLY reason he may have put the phone away is. . .to take his gun out!
     
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    This is also not 1950 when its taboo to have a boyfriend. All these excuses being made are fine, but O'Mara is going to tear this chick apart, I mean you keep quiet that your love could have been murdered? Come on now.
     
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    No you are just confused because the Times' map is upside down, north is down and south is up. Both maps show the same thing if you ever bothered to pay closer attention to what you are looking at instead of seeing what you want to see you wouldn't come across as so obtuse. But if anything this back and forth has proven that you aren't too keen on things.

    The two maps are the same just inverse

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    It wasn't HER phone that went dead....it was TRAYVON'S.......good grief people....
     
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    You are assuming a lot, again!
     
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    Yes we do. The girl had no reason to lie.
    A lot less reasons than GZ's father or brother.
     
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    It doesn't matter the maps are inverse because it doesn't change the fact the first arrows for T are running parallel to the back entrance instead of TOWARDS the back entrance. Z specifically said T was heading towards the back entrance and the first possible path for T is 90 degrees off which means T's first assumed path is false by Z's recorded call. The subsequent possible paths have T headed towards the back entrance but the beginning is flat out wrong.
     
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    Actually we do from the phone records. Her call with him started at 7:12 pm, about three minutes after Z called the police and ended at 7;16pm. The gunshot was at 7:16:56. Those pesky facts keep slipping through Z-cracks in the sidewalk eh????
     
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    So in that 56 minutes. T attacked Z, according to the known story.
     
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    56 minutes???? Yeah...you're real tight to the facts....

    There is no known story that T attacked Z. But hey, it warms my heart to know your crowd takes the word of a proven liar who had an affinity for violence who shot and killed an unarmed 17 year old. You guys are so cool.
     
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