Time for Paul & Gingrich to STEP ASIDE.....

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Libhater, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. Dan40

    Dan40 New Member

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    STRONG support is a figment of your imagination.

    Ron Paul support, 2/8-2/15 2012
    Rasmussen-10%
    Gallup----10%
    CNN-------16%
    CBS-------12%
    Pew-------12%
    PPP-------13%

    2/6-2/9/2012
    Fox-------15%
    Rasmussen-11%
    Reuters---21%

    Paul's PEAK average for the entire campaign 14.1% 1/18/2012.

    Paul hit his peak in the 2008 campaign on 2/16/2008 at 7.2%,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then he QUIT. And he QUIT in 1988.

    Now he's doing, not quite, twice that. 2 X 7.2%=14.4% Which = dead, as in NO chance, LAST.

    Paul has some great ideas and positions. But he is all done with politics. He never had ANY chance to be president, and he doesn't now.

    And for the Paulobots that cannot say enough BAD about Romney, Paul and Romney are BFF's. Have been for years. look it up.
     
  2. marbro

    marbro New Member

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    Paul is not going to step aside, and with the way him and his supporters have been treated by the press and the establishment republicans, they are going to make life hell.

    You will just have to deal with it much like we have had to deal with the little girls crying about it.

    Ron Paul and his supporters are here till then end!!

    RON PAUL 2012
     
  3. MnBillyBoy

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    The conversation between Romney and Paul isn't about dirty laundry..never has been.
    They have their differences but remain civil..
    newt is just an angry ol' attack muffin..lost without a cause..other than to defeat Romney..

    as if that was the goal ?

    Santorum IS what being a WASHINGTON INSIDER is all about.
    4 years after he lost his last election and he made more money in each of the following years...as a lobbyist..not a coal miners son.
    His tax returns say it all..he didn't paint houses..get his hands dirty.He sold himself ..peddling influence.
    WHICH in itself isn't that bad...except he sold himself as the blue collar worker bee kind of guy ..
    BUY AMERICAN...while driving an AUDI.

    Then he branded himself the true conservative..the self made EVANGELICAL leader..except he didn't give much in the way to charities..or his church.
    I wonder if that sweater vest is more of a cover up than some symbol of conservatism ?

    How he and newt made it this far is amazing ...usually corrupt politicians end up as lobbyist...
    NOT PRESIDENTS !
     
  4. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Romney couldn't be more opposite than obama in any of his policies or beliefs if he tried. Rather than spoil all your fantasy thoughts about Romney, I'll zero in on one.

    In Massachusetts, Romney balanced the budget every year without raising taxes. He fought to roll back the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0% and created budgets on a 5% income tax. When the state's Democratically controlled Senate tried to raise Capital gains taxes, he not only successfully oposed it, but he also got the capital gains taxes cut. Balancing the budget without a tax hike has been his most sifnificant accomplishment as governor.

    And stop trying to link Romney's healthcare plan to obama's government style one. They are two opposites again. Romney has given us his 57 page domestic jobs and energy producing plan to get Americans working again, and getting America to be self supporting rather than relying on foreign oil. Romney happened to be a successful businessman where obama became a comunity organizer leeching from the federal government in order to say he did some good in minority or poverty stricken neighborhoods. Romney was a leader as governor of Mass, and of revitalizing a dying Olympics. Obama has been an abject failure in everything he has tried to do via socialism. The two men are as different as Reagan was to Castro.
     
  5. The XL

    The XL Well-Known Member

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    Ron Paul is nothing like Mitt. That ticket makes no sense.
     
  6. Dan40

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    It is perfectly fine for Paul supporters to be ARDENT supporters to the END. In fact, you should be!

    The question is, WHEN is the end? Is the end when Paul loses the primaries? Is the end when Paul drops out?

    ONE of those 2 things IS going to happen. He WILL lose or he will drop out.

    THEN,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT do you do? Paul IS a registered Republican. That is Paul's chosen party. Paul IS running to be the REPUBLICAN NOMINEE. Paul WILL be a gracious gentleman when it is over and he is not the nominee.

    Will Paul supporters be as gracious? Will Paul supporters be supporters of the person that beats Paul in the primaries? AS PAUL WOULD EXPECT YOU TO BE?
     
  7. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

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    ^^^^^^

    If this is the sort of thinking of Ron Paul's supporters, paranoid conspiracy theory and 9/11 truth. I'd rather not have their support.

    I'm not climbing into bed with whackjob tinfoil hats, militia types, white nationalists, etc.. regardless of the outcome of the election. Neither am I interested in climbing into bed with a drug addicted, anarcho-youth block.
     
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    thatkimjongilisanucklehed New Member

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    If he himself is extremely reluctant to endorse the "eventual nominee", what makes you believe any of his supporters would, and moreover, why would he want us to support this "eventual nominee"?

    If Paul did in fact endorse the Republican nominee at this point, he would lose my support immediately, along with the rest of the libertarian base. How the GOP honestly believes they can win this election without us is completely beyond me.
     
  9. marbro

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    Its kinda too late to be just about Paul anymore. A lot of folks have waken up to the fact that both major Parties have failed this country. For me, Paul may be the last republican I vote for. I dont see any others that have proven to

    Reduce spending
    Reduce taxes
    Adhere to our contstitution as much as possible and NOT PROGRESS away from it
    Be fiscially responsible
    And protect individual liberties.

    Paul is a champion of this movement he is not the movement. It will only grow and continue well beyond Ron Paul.

    If Paul were to endorce Mitt, I would vote Gary Johnson instead of writing in Paul.

    For most folks its about beating Obama, for me its about restoring this country. I wanted to help change the republican party back to its roots of True conservitism but folks have sold out to liberals just to beat OBama. Well, have it and good luck.
     
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    The12thMan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. The bozos who disenfranchise us expect us to fall in line on election day. Not me.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqsyzTrWS0g"]Did Maine GOP Blatantly Cheat Ron Paul out of a Victory? - YouTube[/ame]
     
  11. Wildjoker5

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    That is as big of a lie as Obama has "not raised taxes on the middle class".

    But hey, what is a $10 tax on used cars anyways? That and 88 other forms of hidden taxes raised

    User fee on private insurance.
    Corporate tax increase.
    Petroleum moving tax.
    Registry of Deeds tax.
    Fees from Children's Medical Security Program co-pays and premiums.

    Yeah, he is as great as Obama.

    I am not. Romney said he would put his own healthcare bill in that forced insurance companies to cover the "uninsurable" during one of the debates.

    He still has to get congress to approve.

    I totally agree.
    Well, between their private business careers maybe, but when it comes to political ideology, they are as different as Fidel and Raul, Castro.
     
  12. Dan40

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    What you and the rest of the cement minded Paulobots are actually saying is that there is NO WAY the GOP could get your support. Paul cannot win, PERIOD. He has support ONLY with the immaturely young, the least educated and the lowest paid. And NONE of those 3 groups get out and VOTE. Paul would have WON in Maine with 2200 total votes. He got less than 2000. He has NO strong support among conservatives. He has no strong support among the tea party. He has no strong support among Independents, He has no strong support among moderates. He has the support of the naive and the ineffective.

    Paul IS part of the GOP. You will not vote for the GOP. How does the GOP deal with nonsensical immature statements like that?

    When you say you're going to stomp your feet and scream until you get your way, sensible ADULTS ignore you.
     
  13. Krypt

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    Immaturely young...says the man calling people "Paulobots". I'm pretty sure I'm more mature and educated than you. I'm definitely not the lowest paid...

    ...and newsflash for you genius....Paul is probably going to win Maine. They will be doing a recount with all the votes that should be taken into count...
     
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    All you're doing is parroting MSM talking points.

    Parrot this, Danno.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3bskuJNYzU&feature=player_embedded"]CNN Shocked by New Poll About Ron Paul - YouTube[/ame]
     
  15. marbro

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    Though I beleive he did really win Main, I doubt he will win a recount I hope he does but .... They didnt want the votes made public and its the counties that made them public anyways that are showing the discrepancies. An example, One county they voted to have all their votes made public and they had Ron Paul as the winner but when they called it in, the state GOP already had Mitt as the winner with different numbers. Its only because this particular county made it public that we see the FRAUD but the rest... what can we do? They will just fudge the numbers for the counties they keep private.

    Worse yet, was what happen in Portland where Ron Paul won most of the county delegates and they just decided to void it all out.......It gotten real bad in Maine. I hope they do uncover it all and show how the establishment has been fixing this election from the start.
     
  16. Dan40

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    More and more desperate and illogical.
     
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    TheHat Well-Known Member

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    Hey, y'all mind if my state votes 1st before you tell my candidate to get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out?

    Thanks,

    Concerned Citizen of Louisiana
     
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    So, anyone that is not a fiscal progressive should drop out. Got it.
     
  19. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    What is a fiscal progressive if not an oxymoron?
     
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    Do you not understand the english language? "Fiscal" doesn't describe any political stance unless it has another word that is following it. Fiscal conservative, fiscal progressive, fiscal liberal. The second word describes how they treat the money.
     
  21. Libhater

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    No one said fiscal describes any political stance, however, I was simply using the word 'progressive' when matched with the word 'fiscal' as presenting us with an oxymoron. Saying that a 'fiscal progressive' is an oxymoron does indeed describe how the second word....'progressive' treats the money. Thanks for making my case.
     
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    The republican party is hurting the republican party. It's almost like they don't want to beat Obummer at all.
     
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    In the recent Florida election, All 9 Republican candidates were on the ballot. All had legally applied to be on the ballot so the election authorities HAD to keep them on the ballot until they officially notified FL that they had dropped out. None did, all were on the ballot, all got votes!
     
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    All the more reason to get behind Ron Paul before it's too late.
     
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    If support for Paul TRIPLED, he'd just edge out Santorum. It was too late for Paul in 2008 before he quit. N0w its TOO LATE plus 4 years.

    Nothing against Paul as a person. Nothing against the majority of Paul's ideas and positions. But the "Big Prize has passed him by, long, long, ago.

    What the nation NEEDS is someone young to take up Paul's issues and ideas and DO something with them. Not Paul, the man, Paul the idea!
     

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