The Coming 4 Blood Moons

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  1. Tosca1

    Tosca1 Well-Known Member

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    About a month or so ago, John Hagee was talking about the coming four blood moons when I stumbled onto that channel. He was already in the middle of it, but I was intrigued by what he was actually explaining. I got glued to the tv. :)

    He was connecting NASA's predictions of coming solar and lunar eclipses (a group of 4) in 2014-2015, with the blood moons of the past.

    It's about the message.

    He reiterated several times that he's not making the prophesy. What he's doing is simply using the scientific predictions of NASA and connecting them with the history of Israel, and he's basing this on biblical verses ( Genesis, Joel, Ezekiel, and Luke).
    For the complete video of the John Hagee presentation/sermon: "The Four Blood Moons"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiUXLUBri2Q


    I was given additional information about this. One of the information is a quite something - it's more in-depth and it included charts and videos.

    At the very bottom of the page is a fascinating 6-part video : 2015 Blood Red Moon.
    They have a Jewish Minister from El Shaddai going in-depth with his explanation about Hebrew Feasts and Hebrew interpretations, and showing how the Biblical verses tied in....a lot of the confusing verses start to make sense. A must-see!!!

    http://www.jesusonmymind.com/services

    Thank you, and God bless you all.
     
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    The last time that four blood red moons occurred together was in 1967-1968, probably related to the recapture of Jerusalem by Israel. The time that the tetrad occurred before this was in 1949-1950, probably related to Israel becoming a nation. Before this time, the last occurrence was 1493-1494, probably related to the expulsion of the Jews from Spain.

    (sounds like nonsense to me)
     
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    [video=youtube;RiUXLUBri2Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=RiUXLUBri2Q[/video]

    Oh my.... He knows the date of the Exodus......
     
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    I guess you've skipped a lot. Or.....some info just sailed past overhead?

    Have you watched the 6-part video from the second link, by any chance?
    Anyway, conclude how you will.
     
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    I am listening to it now.. but honestly.... Its Hagee.
     
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    What is a blood moon ?
     
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    An eclipse.
     
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    Hagee slaughtered the history of the Inquisition.. and of Colombus........
     
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    Some people just like the fringe stuff. Coast to Coast, or the tabloids for news and info. Why? Lack of common sense, basically.
     
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    Hagee ciams the whole Arab world and Russia will march against Israel. .. and he's preaching Gog and Magog.. Its pretty ridiculous.. Gog and Magog.. (the Scythians) invaded before the birth of Christ.. and then some stayed and settled south of the Decapolis.
     
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    Hagee has said the head of the EU will be the anti-Christ. Frightening that this nutcase has a platform as big as it is. What's wrong with Texans?
     
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    LOLOL. Good question.. but I think Hagee is bigger than Texas.

    Did you hear Hagee's rant about Catholics?
     
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    At the bottom of my OP is another link. That link has the 6-part video (and it's not Hagee).
     
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    He's simply interpreting the Bible verse when he explained about Russia, LIbya etc..,
    He is not saying that that's going to happen in 2014-15.
     
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    The lunar cycle has nothing to do with Israel, and will continue to cycle with or in the absence of Israel.

    The moon is a honey badger, as it simply does not give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about any particular country.
     
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    1352BC????????
     
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    Astronomy uses the various alignments as a clock.
    We call this the Sidereal Clock in general.

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    But when various rare or even one time alignments of the planets and there relationship to the fixed stars and the constellations which background those planets, specific times can be referred to, as Nostradamus often did.
     
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    Christians have bought into this strange reference to a special anti-Christ since even in 32AD such men were rather common.



    1.1 John 2:18
    Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    2 John 1:7
    For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

    What Christian need identify is the False Prophet.
    This is probably confused with the idea of an antichrist, but the False Prophet is described in Rev 13:
    Of course he was Mohammed, who is the only world wide known prophet since Jesus and certainly the same one as identified by Daniel:

    Dan 7:8 I considered the (ten) horns, and, behold, there came up, (in 616AD), among them (an eleventh), another little horn, (Islam), before whom there were, (had been), three of the first (10) horns, (Undivided Empire: Diocletian: [305AD]; Western Roman Empire: [to 476 AD]; Eastern Roman: Byzantine Empire, [to 1453 AD]), and plucked up by the roots (the Eastern Roman Orthodox Christian Byzantine Empire at the hands of this Ottoman Empire): and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, (beginning with the great seer, the Prophet Mohammed), and a mouth, (The Koran), speaking great things: [Rev 13:6].
     
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    Isn't the False Prophet supposed to point to the AntiChrist who declares himself God? Islam doesn't expect more prophets, nor (considering the theology of Islam) are they likely to support anyone even hinting that they are God in human flesh. There are enough holes in that theory that I don't think it makes sense.
     
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    Islam expects the return of the Mahdi, which for them is the equivalent of the Second Coming to Christians and the messiah ben David for the Jews.
     
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    Why would you need to know more?
     
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    Who could challenge the condemnation of a sidereal clock by which long term prophecies could be made with such an astyte opinion as yours?????

    But we do have the example of prophecy in Revelation which uses this sidereal time piece for marking events to come:


    Rev. 12:4 And (the dragon raised in the Renaissance), his tail drew (behind him, his ancient legacy of Astrology), the third part of the (ten) stars of heaven, (Uranus, 1781 AD, Neptune, 1845 AD, and Pluto, 1930 AD), and did cast them, (to mark the time of these prophecies by this Sidereal Clock), to all (those upon) the earth:
    and the dragon,
    (Satan and the Devil, i.e.; Paganism, that SYSTEM OF LOOSE SEXUAL MORES) stood, (in Western Europe), before the woman (of the Judeo-Christian Church) which was ready to be delivered (in the Reformation and establishment of Protestant Christianity), for to devour her child, (The Church), as soon as it was born.

    1) March 13, 1781 is discovery of Uranus, and the establishment of America with the defeat of General Cornwallis, October 1781, Cornwallis surrendered.
    The first in a trinity of events which was marked by the discovery of Uranus in 1781 AD. This actually marked the date for the establishment of America, which meant safety for Jews and and non Catholic Christians. This was the place in the wilderness of the New World which was established by the constitutional right to a Freedom of Religion which ended that organized and political persecution the Jews/Protestants had suffered in Europe.



    2) The discovery of the previously unseen "god" in 1845, called Neptune, marked the renassiance of Jewish faith in a return to their promised lands in Israel with the rise of Zionism in the middle of the 19th century:
    Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in central and eastern Europe as a national revival movement, and soon after this most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
    This event of 1945 was recognized by the Millers, asect of 100,000 people who believed Miller had seen the prophecy of something really big about to happen in Christianity. The Zionist movement was tgatbiggie, but the Millerites thought it meant the return of Christ.
    They sold ll their world goods, gave tgemoney away, and awaut the rapture.
    When it did nit happen, they formed what is tiday the Seven Day Adventist Church and explained that the prophecy was about iopenong the Aktar of God, but in heaven.

    3) The discovery of the previously unseen "god" in 1930, called Pluto, marked the date of the event always known as the Balfour Declaration, (which should rather be called "The Milner Declaration of 1930), since Milner was the actual draftsman... was made public on 21 July 1937.
    The draft as originally put up by Lord Balfour was approved by the War Cabinet...assented to by the War Cabinet and afterwards by the Allied Governments and by the United States...and finally embodied in the Mandate, was issued in the name of the Foreign Secretary.
     
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    Correct.... and there is something about this that is pagan.. I think Jews would laugh their heads off over Hagee's claims.
     
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    "This event of 1845 was recognized by the Millers"... should be addendum to the previous post above.

    Sorry.
    It was too late to edit.


    2) The discovery of the previously unseen "god" in 1845, called Neptune, marked the Renaissance of Jewish faith in a return to their promised lands in Israel with the rise of Zionism in the middle of the 19th century:
    Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in central and eastern Europe as a national revival movement, and soon after this most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
    This event of 1845 was recognized by the Millers, a sect of 100,000 people who believed Miller had seen the prophecy of something really big about to happen in Christianity. The Zionist movement was that “biggie” which they were anticipating, but the Millerites thought it meant the return of Christ.
    They sold all their world goods, gave the money away, and awaited the rapture.
    When it did not happen, they formed what is today the Seven Day Adventist Church and explained that the prophecy was about opening the Altar of God, but in heaven.
     
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    Oh for sure the Jews would dismiss whatever he said.
    In fact, they distain most Christian commentary and totally reject the New testament.

    But strangely enough, when it comes to the Book of Revelation, the Jews are somewhat interested in what John wrote because most of it is really just the apocalypse of the Jews which had come down from tradition.
    John added and revised and extended the Jewish insights, but most of it is very "Kosher."


    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12712-revelation-book-of

    From the Jewish Encyclopedia:

    ..."the apocalypse has become especially important to Jewish students since it has been discovered by Vischer (see bibliography) that the main apocalypse actually belongs to Jewish apocalyptic literature."

    E. Vischer, Die Offenbarung Johannis, Leipsic, 1886;
     

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