Russian ambassador shot dead in Ankara gallery

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  1. Fisherguy

    Fisherguy Well-Known Member

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    Can't conservatives blame Hillary this one last time? What's wrong with you people, you're slacking on us....Put down your Budweiser Light and write something. Attention Fake News writers around the world: Get busy and make up something. Throw in a UFO encounter and Hillary; you'll get more clicks and advertising revenue.
     
  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The Russian ambassador was insignificant as a meaningful target. But there's a whole phone book of leaders around the world who wouldn't be missed. People are always killing diplomats. The risk comes with the job and they are mostly just by-standers. It's a shame they can't trust their body guards.
     
  3. Balancer

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    Certainly. In Russia 10% of Muslims and their main regions — quiet and cultural places.

    Here, for example, cousin of my father-in-law. Muslim.

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    And it is my wife. Muslim :)

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    They are similar to the fanatics ready to arrange terrorist attacks and to kill?

    It is very simple to divide all people on a formal sign and to accuse not on affairs, and on racial or religious affiliation.

    It is also simple, on the contrary, to begin to call for forgiveness and to say that all Muslims good, only at some life bad.

    The truth — is more difficult. She that Muslims are the same people. And among them is as good who can be loved and respected. And bad who need to be destroyed. But before loving or destroying, it is necessary to understand who is who. It is difficult, but without it it is impossible to survive.

    By the way, I am an Orthodox Christian. And it hasn't prevented me to marry the Muslim :)
     
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  4. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't expect much to come of it-he's only going to continue in Syria.
     
  5. ararmer1919

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    Hillary? Who cares about that old bar anymore. Maybe you didn't see the news yesterday about the EC vote?
     
  6. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised the gunman didn't shoot the photographer:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sharp-suited-turkish-policeman-killed-russian-envoy-215246697.html

    The sharp-suited Turkish policeman who killed Russian envoy
    Stuart WILLIAMS,AFP 9 hours ago Comments Sign in to like Reblog on Tumblr Share Tweet Email

    Istanbul (AFP) - The assassin of the Russian ambassador to Ankara was a 22-year-old from a quiet region in the west of Turkey who had served with the anti-riot police for less than three years.

    The man identified as Mevlut Mert Altintas shouted "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest) and "Don't forget Aleppo" as he waved his gun around at a cultural centre in the Turkish capital.

    But there has yet to be any indication Altintas, who was later "neutralised" by police", was attracted to religious extremism or had any history of activism.

    Images showed the clean-shaven man smartly dressed in a suit, tie and white shirt pull out a gun and fire at ambassador Andrei Karlov from behind as the envoy opened a Russian photography exhibition in Ankara.

    He then threatened terrified spectators, yelling "Allahu Akbar" and saying that the murder was vengeance for Russia's actions in the war-battered Syrian city of Aleppo.

    Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu said Altintas was born in the town of Soke in Aydin province in western Turkey and attended a special school for training future policemen.

    Altintas then joined the Ankara anti-riot police -- the Cevik Kuvvet in Turkish -- and had worked there for the last two-and-a-half-years.

    The region of Aydin on the Aegean coast is one of Turkey's most peaceful regions well away from trouble-spots and the country's most religiously conservative areas.

    - Family questioned -

    After the attack on Karlov, Altintas refused to surrender and remained inside the exhibition centre as clashes took place with police for 15 minutes.

    But he was then killed by police in an operation, authorities said.

    Reports said that his mother, father and sister were immediately detained for questioning in their homes in western Turkey.

    The mayor of Ankara, Melih Gokcek, known for his outspoken comments, speculated on his official Twitter account that the attacker may be linked to the group of Fethullah Gulen blamed for the July 15 coup aimed at toppling President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

    His suggestion has yet to be echoed by other officials.

    In footage from the scene, Altintas talks about pledging allegiance to jihad in Arabic.

    Switching to Turkish, he then says: "Don't forget about Syria, don't forget about Aleppo. All those who participate in this tyranny will be held accountable".

    The attack came after days of angry protests in Turkey over Russia's actions in Syria in support of President Bashar al-Assad.

    But Erdogan has spearheaded a rapprochement with Russia in recent months and the two countries had been working closely to remove civilians from war-torn Aleppo.



    http://mashable.com/2016/12/19/turkey-assassination-photograher/#geaRFGlRBOqf

    When the assassin attacked, this photographer caught it on camera

    An unnamed gunman gestures after shooting the Russian Ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov, at a photo gallery in Ankara, Turkey, Monday, Dec. 19, 2016.IMAGE: AP PHOTO/BURHAN OZBILICI

    BY SASHA LEKACH
    3 HOURS AGO
    PLEASE NOTE: Some of the images below are graphic and may be disturbing to some viewers.

    Associated Press photographer Burhan Ozbilici was covering what he thought was going to be an everyday photo-op with Andrel Karlov, the Russian ambassador to Turkey, at a photo gallery in Ankara, the Turkish capital, on Monday.

    It was anything but.

    In a first-person account for the AP, Ozbilici later Monday shared what it was like to capture images of the scene just as the ambassador was shot and in the harrowing moments following the shooting despite the danger. (Karlov, 62, was taken to a hospital and pronounced dead and police killed the shooter, identified as Mevlut Mert Altintas, in a shootout.)

    SEE ALSO: Turkey's internet censorship is starting to look like China's 'Great Firewall'


    He described the terrifying situation.

    "The gunshots, at least eight of them, were loud in the pristine art gallery. Pandemonium erupted. People screamed, hid behind columns and under tables and lay on the floor. I was afraid and confused, but found partial cover behind a wall and did my job: taking photographs," he wrote.

    AP photographer Burhan Ozbilici took photos of Mevlut Mert Altintas during the attack on Andrei Karlov, the Russian Ambassador to Turkey, at a photo gallery in Ankara, Turkey.
    IMAGE: AP PHOTO/BURHAN OZBILICI
    The photographer even captured the would-be gunman just before the assassination. Ozbilici said when he looked at the photos later and saw the shooter behind the ambassador, he was shocked how much he looked "like a friend, or a bodyguard."

    Andrei Karlov, the Russian Ambassador to Turkey, pauses during a speech at a photo exhibition in Ankara moments before a gunman opened fire on him.
    IMAGE: AP PHOTO/BURHAN OZBILICI
    Ozbilici said he learned that the gunman, identified as 22-year-old Altintas, had been shouting about Aleppo and Russia's military role in the ongoing Syrian civil war, but at the time Ozbilici could only tell that he was "agitated" and speaking in Arabic. (The AP reported he shouted in both Turkish and Arabic.)

    He was overwhelmed by the situation, but not for long, "It took me a few seconds to realize what had happened: A man had died in front of me; a life had disappeared before my eyes."

    After snapping several shots of the shooter, dying ambassador and the scared crowd, the photographer was escorted out of the building with other attendees at the event. He made it out safely, but he said while it was happening he thought of "friends and colleagues who have died while taking photographs in conflict zones over the years."

    People crouch in a corner after Karlov, the Russian Ambassador to Turkey, was shot at a photo gallery in Ankara, Turkey.
    IMAGE: PHOTO/BURHAN OZBILICI
    On the social travel network Wayn, Ozbilici has a profile filled with photos — many of them with a camera in hand. He profile describes himself as a 56-year-old Turkish man living in Ankara. His "about me" section says, "I always believed (and experienced) that the most important thing in life is to be happy and to be able to make good people (or just your friends) happy!"

    The Turkish photograph is being lauded for his bravery.
    IMAGE: BURHAN OZBILICI/WAYN/SCREENGRAB
    People took to Twitter to share their admiration for the photographer and how brave he was for catching a terrifying moment in history.
     
  7. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well Russia's been very busy in Turkey

    Have Russian hitmen been killing with impunity in Turkey?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38294204
     
  8. US Conservative

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    Maybe he'll follow Trump's lead. He'll require all of Russia's Muslims to register for a database.
     
  10. D0nRumataEst0rsky

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    Maybe Russia needs to start bomb some weak countries like USA did it after September 11?
     
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    The words "Do not forget Aleppo" should clue you in on that.

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    And what weak countries to bomb would those be?
     
  12. RP12

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    Seems you want to leave out "God is great" as predicted.
     
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    Because that Aleppo mention was just completely irrelevant and not a reason for anything, right?
     
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    Or that...
     
  15. micfranklin

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    So it can't be both?
     
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    Both are relevant you seem to only want to discuss one part of it.

    Silly rwers leaving things out! ( oh sarcasm)
     
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    Whoever sows the wind will harvest storm ... and Russia was and is a busy farmer in the ME!

    No ... I do not rate this assassination as good or so, it is evil of course, but no wondering from my side that a reaction like this will follow or come since Russia is involved in Syria active!
    More important is the relationship of the new big friends Erdogan and Putin now! I think no dispute will follow ... as the by Turkish f-16 shot down Russian jet is still eliminated as topic.
     
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    If we will follow the logic of USA then any.
     
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    One and the same force shot down the plane and killed the Ambassador. Gulen is part of this Pro-NATO forces. USA is responsible for these attacks.
     
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    In a country where 98% of the people are Muslim and bordering 2 of the most volatile, unstable countries in the midst of crisis right now, is a guy pledging Jihad really all that surprising?
     
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    I wonder if Oprah will have Putin on her next TV special discussing how Islam really is the Religion of Peace and it's all Bush's fault for invading Iraq.

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    We can always hope.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's already done that. All Russian citizens carry Natinal ID (internal passport). But you already know that, right? :wink:
     
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    WTF?
    The Turkish Pilots in the F-16 jets are now suddenly Gulen followers and Erdogan is so innocent suddenly? Are you serious?
    Oh my goodness ... Man, really, in all friendship and respect:

    Are you = one who attacked Erdogan in the past always to be a NATO puppet and a criminal terrorist supporter really following the Russian Propaganda and now you are following this obvious turn in propaganda since Erdogan and Putin met some month ago?
    Suddenly is NATO = Gulen since Erdogan is no enemy anymore?
     
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    Neither Russia nor Turkey broke diplomatic relations so why wouldn't Russia keep it's ambassador there? Sorry but that is foolish statement you made.

    Turkey us our NATO ally and Russia is enemy and Russia is the mane reason we need a NATO. You need to start thinking in terms of what is best fir us, America, nit our enemies such as Russia.

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    Yep that us the way it has been since the days of the Evil Monterous Empire -aka the USSR.
     
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    Neither the nationality, nor religious affiliation is specified in the passport :)

    Actually, in Russia the religious affiliation isn't specified in any documents.
     

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