Is Hillary the Greatest Loser?

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Is Hillary the Greatest Loser?

Poll closed Mar 4, 2017.
  1. Yes: never seen such a loser!

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  2. Yes, but: you know, Russian hackers ...

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  3. I cannot say

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  4. No, but ... better to candidate Angelina Jolie!

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  5. No: she won the popular vote!

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  1. fizbo

    fizbo Well-Known Member

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    Why not?? The political leadership of California would like to "eliminate" the state Confederacy. Read it for yourself:

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...ative-leaders-feel-1478722845-htmlstory.html#

    What was particularly interesting was the following:

    "We woke up feeling like strangers in a foreign land, because yesterday Americans expressed their views on a pluralistic and democratic society that are clearly inconsistent with the values of the people of California," said the statement from Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) and Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon (D-Paramount).

    As a native Californian, they clearly don't speak for me. But unfortunately, they do for the vast majority in the state. California is populated by millions of low information voters, minority or otherwise. We have 2 million public employees who are concerned with little more than keeping their jobs and unsustainable pensions. The cherry on the cream is three generations of Californians who have been indoctrinated by the largest liberal infested college system in the country. It's not surprising that our local leaders do not feel part of the larger mainstream country.

    So no. It's more than fair to eliminate the impact California dysfunction from the count of any popular vote. It's nothing to be proud of.
     
  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon :roll: Now there's another jewel of the Democrat legislatures in California. A Mexican-American Mexican nationalist, open borders, sanctuary cities, free stuff for illegal aliens and anti U.S. Constitution especially the Second Amendment.

    Five family members shot by guns !!!

    Sounds more like it's not a gun problem but Rendon has a mucho grande family problem.
     
  3. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That she did win the popular vote but lost in the electoral college demonstrates just how much a loser she is - to run for president for decades and never actually learn how it works. She was literally prohibiting spending, campaign activities and political signs in the rustbelt states. What a LOSER!:roflol:

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    Only a fool assumes victory so takes a nap while the battle rages on.

    [video=youtube;LjUOlELv7ck]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjUOlELv7ck[/video]
     
  4. EggKiller

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    Seemingly you have nothing to worry about.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like a family with a bunch of gang members.

    http://www.breitbart.com/california...-cites-1997-gang-related-shooting-motivation/
     
  7. Greataxe

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    Clinton and the corrupt Dems were the problems. It was wonderful that they were exposed. The Leftist Mainstream Media would have never divulged a single one of their transgressions even if their own hackers found the same things.

    How wonderful the kitchen light was turned on and the cockroaches scattered!
     
  8. fizbo

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    What did Putin do to influence the elections? Exposed that the DNC influenced the election with their favoritism of Clinton over Sanders?? (true). Exposed that the DNC fed debate questions to Clinton ahead of time?? (true). Exposed the two faced nature of her highly paid speeches to Wall Street?? (true).

    Conservatives and high-information independents already knew she was a political slime ball. There was nothing really new here. Democratic Leftist-Progressives already had their heads buried in the sand and weren't going to acknowledge the reality Clinton is/was.

    There should be no tolerance for any foreign power hacking into US networks. That's just another Obama failure (among many) that he didn't take care of when he could have. But the irony is that most of what was exposed should have been done by an independent press with integrity. Unfortunately, that's now almost non-existent.
     
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    The pantywaists seem unable to deal with the public preference that was indicated by the popular vote.

    Despite that, some worked hard to get their way and are clearly delighted.

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  10. Hoosier8

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    Only in California.

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  11. fizbo

    fizbo Well-Known Member

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    This, in the nutshell, is the all encompassing answer to the leftists who consistently beat the dead horse of the popular vote. :roll:
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary is a loser alright, but had she won, America would have lost even bigger...
     
  13. AlpinLuke

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    The points about Hillary Clinton are two:

    1. being the first female candidate to the Presidency with realistic possibility to win ... she had to win by 10 points and 100 electoral votes ... [to say the least].

    2. To underline that she won the popular vote is correct and licit, but to decontextualize this is not that fair: it's like to say that a team in Italian soccer championship had to win the title since it has scored the highest number of goals. The rule is simple: to win the title you need to collect the highest number of points ... not to score more goals than all the others.

    Eh ... but in democracy who gets more votes [among the expressed ones] should govern ... sure ... according to the rules of the Constitution or of the base laws which are the same for all. In Europe today there are two great countries with a parliamentary democracy [one is a parliamentary Monarchy and the other a parliamentary Republic] with two governments that the people has never voted [not impossible that in occasion of the last general elections the electors of the two countries knew a nut about present Prime Ministers].

    I'm making reference to UK and Italy.

    At the end the point is only one:

    Hillary Clinton was and Democrats were too sure to win.
     
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    more people voted for Hillary then Trump, so yes she lost, but she still did quite well
     
  15. Hoosier8

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    You mean Hillary's basket of deplorables.
     
  16. Thehumankind

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    She is,
    toppled by Russian intervention which vehemently tested her integrity.
     
  17. Hey Nonny Mouse

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    As always, I side with the US intelligence services, instead of deciding to ignore their findings.
     
  18. ArmySoldier

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    So what you're saying is. She's so stupid she campaigned for the popular vote, which doesn't even matter.

    Yes, I agree.
     
  19. perdidochas

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    Yes, McCain and Romney followed the same pattern. McCain lost the primary to GW Bush in 2000. Then he lost the Presidential election in 2008. Romney lost the primary to McCain in 2008, then lost the Presidential election in 2012. It's pretty common.

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    We would have been just as much a loser with HRC as President. it was a no-win situation for the U.S.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    She would've had my vote
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It's California that's right and the rest of the country is clearly out of step with reality, as the next two years are going to show beyond question. I know I'll be fine, as my business and my life always do better in hard times; but I just hope we all survive and the Republicans get what everyone is going to know they deserve for having put us through what is about to happen

    Hillary is the greatest winner of the Popular vote that ever lost the Presidency. Trump is the most hated man to ever occupy the office. His party is joining him in that distinction. My prediction is they will lose the Congress in 2018, the Presidency by the greatest landslide ever in 2020 and there will not even be a Republican candidate in 2024.
     
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    No, she won the popular vote. I despise Clinton, but she didn't lose as bad as some people like to say she did.
     
  23. fizbo

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    Yea, that snake pit of progressive dysfunction where immigration law is openly flaunted, and where the leaders of state government openly declare that California values are outside those of vast mainstream America is definitely in step with reality. :roll:

    You will be fine. You'll probably never admit it, but your business has a good chance of doing better. That's the difference between having a leader who's still a community organizer at heart vs. a leader who understands business and has a clue about making things better. Cheer up. You'll most likely look back on this and wonder how you remained blinded for so long.
     
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What vast mainstream values are those? Turning our back on our ideals and our heritage to satisfy the prejudices of a bunch of losers who can't prosper even when the deck is stacked in their favor and so blame their own shortcomings on everyone else? Or maybe it's supporting snowflake businesses that can't compete in world markets even when the government subsidizes their employees wages and so demand that everyone else pay even higher prices through government intervention? Could it be the billionaires who will profit several thousand percent more than what the average taxpayer will see in Trump's tax "cuts"?
     
  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, the light was temporarily extinguished and the cockroaches are now in charge. Fortunately the exterminator is coming soon enough. Maybe even sooner if we find out that the head bug was involved in the big bugging that enabled his "victory"

    The only reason that Hillary lost was because Democrats thought that nobody would vote for a candidate as flawed as Trump and so stayed home thinking the election won. Once again we let our better natures override our cynicism and underestimated the pull that hatred and bigotry has on some people, that will not happen again.
     

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