hitler didnt have a plan to exterminate the jews

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  1. Jack Napier

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    So? How is that different to what we have now? Indeed, now we just have liars.

    Bush was just a liar, not a brilliant orator.
     
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    The word you want is decamp NOT decant..

    Hitler had an 8th grade education.
     
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    The gas was carbon monoxide, not cyanide. Epic fail for your "leading specialist" on execution equipment.
     
  4. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    Good observation. That's very correct.
     
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    Nobody claimed that the nazis were attempting to exterminate all Jews in Europe, so quit with the strawman arguments.
     
  6. Jack Napier

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    So did Einstein.
     
  7. Jack Napier

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    Really?

    I thought that WAS the plan..???
     
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    Einstein became an autodidact at the age of 16, pursuing a self directed education. That's not the same as dropping out of school and achieving nothing more than an 8th grade education.
     
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    as ridiculous as it is, the basis of his opinion is a negative. It's pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ed hard to prove a negative.
     
  10. saintmichaeldefendthem

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    That's right. It's like saying, "I say the moon landing never happened. Now prove that it did!"
     
  11. Jack Napier

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    Don't get so bogged down in a name that was used. It doesn't matter about what Hitler's education level was, anyway. That is not the theme of the thread.
     
  12. Jack Napier

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    Correct.

    Those making the postive claim are those that have to do the proving.

    So those saying there was an orchestrated, systematic, policy, of total Jewish DEATH, that doggedly went on, all through the war, then it is they who are making that claim, and they must prove it.
     
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    No, you're wrong. We aren't obligated to prove over and over again those events that have already been well established through multiple methods from documents, to physical evidence, to film, personal and written testimony, and corroborating evidence. We're not going to jump through hoops every time some hateful jack-wagon demands his unfounded claims be disproven.
     
  14. Jack Napier

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    Sorry.

    Doesn't work that way.

    Extraordinary claims require accurate and extradordinary evidence.

    Just as well there are truth seeker out there eh, else 'victims' like this, would still be fooling ya all...:giggle:

    [video=youtube;nT2BJhO-prQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2BJhO-prQ[/video]
     
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    Your claims are extraordinary, not mine. You claim against all evidence to the contrary that something that occurred didn't occur. You dismiss physical evidence, sworn testimonies, court convictions, film documentation, etc. Invincible ignorance is nothing to be proud if, it just means I'm wasting my time with you.

    There are very few people I can actually say this to.

    You are an evil person.
     
  16. Jack Napier

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    He was paraded around by Orprah, and the watching millions went 'awww how fluffy'.

    What he really wanted was the book and film deal.

    What he and his mrs really wanted was the MONEY, no matter how low their lies.

    Listen to him as well, even when challenged, in HIS imagination...it happened!

    He is even given a chance to say sorry, and like a psycho, feels nothing.

    Bad apple? Well, if we had taken this one at face value, as holocost religionists want us to do, he woud be Elie Wiesel...

    [video=youtube;iXGh9d0-xKY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXGh9d0-xKY[/video]
     
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    I am not the one sucking up stories about people magically escaping from 'gas chambers', and defecating diamonds...

    [video=youtube;NyMVWVBmGVo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyMVWVBmGVo[/video]
     
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    RA - Here is another way of sort of looking at this, okay.

    If I were to make the statement, right now, that Latino's ran your media, everyone would dismiss the notion, but NO ONE would become angry.

    Why not? Because the claim is evidently not true, and cannot be shown to be so, in any context.

    If I were to make the statement, right now, that blacks ran every aspect of your financial cogs, up to and including gambling your national wealth on failure for you, again, there would be dismissal, but no anger.

    Why not? Because the claim is evidently not true, and cannot be shown to be so, in any context.

    They say that Jews do not run your media nor your financial cogs.

    Why do they get so angry then, if it is just as untrue as the other examples..

    ;)
     
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    Here RA, here is a bit more info, sorry, 'hate'.. ;)


    The “Six Million” Myth

    Zion’s Big Lie

    “The First Holocaust” by Don Heddesheimer is a critical work documenting the continuous Jewish attempts at floating out Holocaust propaganda before, during and after World War One, often invoking the magical “6,000,000″ figure and using the term “Holocaust”. Of course, these clever propagandists have since accomplished their goal of establishing the outrageous myth of the Jewish Holocaust™ in the public consciousness following the end of WW2. In large part due to fictional Hollywood movies like “Shindler’s List” from that lying venomous worm, Steven Spielberg.

    Why the number “Six Million”?

    As documented in the book The First Holocaust, the Zionists have continuously and hysterically attempted to claim that six million Jews were dead, dying or in grave danger in Europe and Russia since the late 1800′s. Any time there was turmoil in Europe, albeit turmoil often instigated by Jews in the first place, prominent Zionist figures and Jewish-controlled media organizations world wide continuously whipped up a frenzy with phony sob stories to get people to feel sorry for Europe’s Jews and donate money to Jewish charities. It turns out that this mythical six million figure, long since discredited even by mainstream Holohoax historians, comes from a Jewish-Talmudic religious myth that says “ye shall return minus six million” or “you shall return to the land of Israel with six million less”, and of course WW2 birthed the modern state of Israel which was established in 1948. Israeli Jews often excuse their systematic genocide of Palestinians and theft of Palestinian lands by bringing up the so-called Holocaust™ of WW2, which any serious researcher and critical thinker knows by now is a fraud of collosal proportions. The Zionists have so much influence that they turned a delusional Jewish religious prophecy into “historical fact”.

    From History & Scriptural Origins of the Six Million Number;

    [Quote 1] Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must “vanish” before the state of Israel can be formed. “You shall return minus 6 million.” That’s why Tom Segev, an Israeli historian, declared that the “6 million” is an attempt to transform the Holocaust story into state religion. Those six million, according to prophecy, had to disappear in “burning ovens”, which the judicial version of the Holocaust now authenticates. As a matter of fact, Robert B. Goldmann writes: “. . . without the Holocaust, there would be no Jewish State.” A simple consequence: Given six million Jews gassed at Auschwitz who ended up in the “burning ovens” (the Greek word holocaust means burned offerings), therefore, the prophecies have now been “fulfilled” and Israel can become a “legitimate state”. –

    Old news clippings in link>>>>http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=24369
    [Quote 2] Regarding the ‘six million’ number you should know the following: In the Hebrew text of the Torah prophesies, one can read “you shall return”. In the text the letter “V” or “VAU” is absent, as Hebrew does not have any numbers; the letter V stands for the number 6. Ben Weintraub, a religious scientist, learned from rabbis that the meaning of the missing letter means the number is ’6 million’. The prophesy then reads: You will return, but with 6 million less. See Ben Weintraub: “The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism”, Cosmo Publishing, Washington 1995, page 3. The missing 6 million must be so before the Jews can return to the Promised Land. Jahweh sees this as a cleaning of the souls of the sinful people. The Jews must, on the return to the Promised Land, be clean — the cleaning shall be done in burning stokes. –A Correspondent

    A few examples for your consideration;

    1900-
    Jewish leader lets slip the Zionist Holohoax scheme

    JUNE 11, 1900 – NEW YORK TIMES – page 7 – Rabbi Wise’s Address
    “There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.”
     
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    So there you can see the previous attempts, and Allegorical Fact knows a bit about this too, and trying to get the magical figure of 'six million Jews' being killed to stick, over and over, and as with all things, it may be ignored or dismissed the first few times, but if you keep on doing it, eventually you are going to find it sticks.

    Even today. Iran want to murder all Jews etc, etc, even though Jews live just fine there.

    The Palestinians want to murder all Jews and DESTROY Israel.

    It's the same drek, now pinned on someone else, wrongly, of course.
     
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    Actually LowKey is right, it matters in official terminology only, its still a crime against humanity, and personally I'm getting really sick of people denying when this happens.
     
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    What does?

    The truth?
     
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    Was the Holocaust real? Well, I prefer to look at sites like this to be sure. Some educational samples from the archives:

    WARNING: These photos are quite graphic and disturbing.

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    Two Germans ensuring that this group of massacred Ukrainian Jews were indeed all dead, near Mizocz, Ukraine, Oct 1942

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    Clothing of prisoners of Sachsenhausen concentration camp who had recently been killed, Oranienburg, Brandenburg, Germany, circa 1936-1945

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    Prisoners of Mauthausen Concentration Camp in Austria being gathered for mass disinfection, date unknown.

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    A pile of human remains at Buchenwald Concentration Camp, near Weimar, Germany, Apr 1945.
     
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    It being a crime of the worst kind. Just because someone got the details wrong does mean that nothing happened.
     
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    I cannot see those pics, however, if am right, we have clothing, we have people gathered for disinfection, and we have dead bodies.

    Yes?
     
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