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    Well since 2012 is just around the corner and no end of the world is in sight, doomsdayers can relax and monger over a new date.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/...earthpostponed

    current calander conversions off by 50-100 years.

    Now you are free to soothsay about any date you wish.
    Last edited by krunkskimo; Oct 20 2010 at 06:27 AM.

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    Just me ab absurodo !!!

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    Now, watch as the History Channel changes Nostradamus' predicted date for the world to end along with the Mayan date to whatever the Mayan date is now, after the dust has settled. December 21, 2062 or December 21, 2112? Perhaps, it's already passed us by and we're all supposed to be dead already.
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - the world gonna end an' we all gonna die...

    Mexican city installs digital clock to count down December 2012 'doomsday'
    Saturday 17th December, 2011 - A city in Mexico has installed a digital clock to count down the time left for December 21, 2012 - when some believe the world will end.
    According to the Daily Express, the clock in Tapachula will start ticking over on Wednesday, a year before the supposed apocalypse. Tapachula is not a popular Mayan tourism destination, but nearby Izapa is more of a draw - the Tree of Life stone was discovered there in the 1950s and is thought to convey an ancient Mayan tale.

    The doomsday theories stem from a pair of tablets that describe the return of a Mayan god at the end of a 13th period of 400 years, which falls on December 21, 2012. Experts say the date marks the end of a 5,125-year cycle that began in 3113 BC - and the start of another.

    Scenarios suggested for the end of the world include the arrival of the next solar maximum, or Earth's collision with a black hole, passing asteroid or a planet called "Nibiru". Scholars from various disciplines have dismissed the idea of such cataclysmic events occurring in 2012.

    Professional Mayanist scholars state that predictions of impending doom are not found in any of the extant classic Maya accounts, and that the idea that the Long Count calendar "ends" in 2012 misrepresents Maya history and culture. Astronomers and other scientists have rejected the proposed events as pseudoscience, stating that they are contradicted by simple astronomical observations.

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    Even if 2012 is some kind of apocalypse, I don't think it is the end of the world, or existence.
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    i think is all crap... hopefully i would be right

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    not real ????

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    Awww shucks, is just the start of a new calendar...

    2012 end of the world? It is not, says Mayan expert
    Jan 2, 2012: Contrary to what many believed, year 2012 will not mark the end of the world but will just be a start of a new calendar, according to Mayan timekeeper.
    Many consider it a joke although others are scared we might never live to see next year thanks to the Mayan calendar's 'apocalyptic' prediction, the Daily Mail reported. But Mayan expert Leonzo Barreno, of Saskatchewan, Canada, has asserted that the 'apocalypse' concept is a false interpretation of the Long Count calendar. The University of Regina journalism professor said Mayan elders told him that December 21 this year simply marks the beginning of a new calendar.

    Barreno, who immigrated to Canada from Guatemala 23 years ago, was trained by Mayan elders to read the calendars. "There are two sides to the story," he told CBC News. "The one that we know is this apocalyptic meaning that has been given to the Long Count." "The other side of the story is the Mayan side, which you rarely see on media articles, because they never interview my own people."

    He revealed that Mayan people are featured for just five seconds of the film '2012', starring John Cusack, which is somewhat based on their 'predictions'. "When I grew up during my training I never hear the word "end of the world" from the elders or spiritual leaders." Mr Barreno added. "For them it's a joyous event, not an apocalyptic event. What is coming is the end of a calendar and the beginning of a new one." Barreno said that it is 'cyclical'. "This has happened before. According to the elders it's the fifth time it's happened," he added.

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    Who in their right mind pays attention to a civilization that isn't around to backup their claim that the world is ending? Their world ended, but ours will be here for millions of years to come...unless we blow ourselves up because our governments can't get along.
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    Oldest Mayan calendar unearthed...

    Mayan art and calendar at Xultun stun archaeologists
    10 May 2012 - The preservation of the artwork surprised archaeologists, given the dwelling's shallow depth
    Archaeologists working at the Xultun ruins of the Mayan civilisation have reported striking finds, including the oldest-known Mayan astronomical tables. The site, in Guatemala, includes the first known instance of Mayan art painted on the walls of a dwelling. A report in Science says it dates from the early 9th Century, pre-dating other Mayan calendars by centuries. Such calendars rose to prominence recently amid claims they predicted the end of the world in 2012.

    The Mayan civilisation occupied Central America from about 2000BC until its decline and assimilation following the colonisation by the Spanish from the 15th Century onwards. It still holds fascination, with many early Mayan sites still hidden or uncatalogued. The ruins at Xultun were first discovered in 1912 and mapping efforts in the 1920s and 1970s laid out much of the site's structure. Archaeologists have catalogued the site's features, including a 35m-tall pyramid, but thousands of structures on the 30 sq km site remain unexplored.

    In 2005, William Saturno, then at the University of New Hampshire, discovered the oldest-known Mayan murals at a site just a few kilometres away called San Bartolo. in 2010, one of Dr Saturno's students was following the tracks of more recent looters at Xultun when he discovered the vegetation-covered structure that has now been excavated. When Mayans renovated an old structure, they typically collapsed its roof and built on top of the rubble. But for some reason, the new Xultun find had been filled in through its doorway, with the roof left intact.

    Dr Saturno, who is now based at Boston University, explained that despite it being under just a metre of soil today, that served to preserve the site after more than a millennium of rainy seasons, insect traffic and encroaching plant and tree roots. "We found that three of the room's four walls were well preserved and that the ceilings were also in good shape in terms of the paintings on them, so we got an awful lot more than we bargained for," he said.

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    Apocalypse never: Newly discovered Mayan calendar further disproves doomsday myth
    May 10, 2012 - Scientists have uncovered the oldest-known Mayan calendar ever discovered — and it further shows that all this December 21, 2012, apocalypse talk is a bunch of hooey.
    The world is not going to end on December 21. No, not even according to the Mayan calendar. And especially not according to the awesome newly uncovered Mayan calendar — the oldest known Mayan calendar in existence — which was recently discovered by Boston University archeologist William Saturno. First glimpsed by an undergraduate student of Saturno’s in 2010, this new Mayan calendar was found buried at a well known Mayan archeology site in Guatemala. After first dismissing the value of the bit of paint spotted by his student, Saturno later went back to record the discovery, regardless of whether it had value.

    What Saturno found turned out to be a well-presevered mural that includes the oldest known Mayan calendar to date. And just like the Maya Long Count calendar, which serves as the basis for the apocalypse myth, this calendar extends indefinitely into the future. “The Mayan calendar is going to keep going for billions, trillions, octillions of years into the future,” University of Texas archeologist, author, and Maya expert David Stuart told LiveScience. “Numbers we can’t even wrap our heads around.”

    In case you’re stumbling upon the Mayan doomsday nonsense for the first time, here’s the gist of it: The Mayan calendar is broken down into “baktuns” (or “b’ak’tun”), each of which equals 400 years, or about 146,000 days. According to Mayan legend, the current world — the one in which we are all currently living — was created over 12 baktuns ago. At the end of the 13th baktun, the world as we know it will cease to exist. December 21, 2012 — the winter solstice — is that day.

    Of course, many scientists with real understanding of ancient Mayan culture and language have for decades tried to explain that, no, the end of the 13th baktun does not literally mean the end of the world. In fact, they say, not even the Mayans themselves believed such silliness. The end-of-world myth was actually concocted by Christian missionaries. And some experts say that the end of the 13th baktun is actually December 23, not December 21. The newly discovered Mayan calendar has cycles of time recording 17 baktuns, rather than the standard 13. This and other details, which Saturno describe in this week’s issue of the journal Science, should be all anyone needs to stop their urge to stock up on canned food and ammo.

    Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/interna...#ixzz1uXOPGbQp
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