Spain to recognize the nation of Palestine in September

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  1. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Palestine turns to UN for recognition
    Wednesday 12 January 2011 by Our Foreign Desk

    Peace talks with Israel have ended and the Palestinian Authority is now seeking UN backing for a Palestinian state based on 1967 borders, top PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat announced on Tuesday.
    Before Mr Erekat headed to Washington to hear the Obama administration's latest idea on how to renew the process, he said: "The talks with Israel have ended.
    "The Netanyahu government is trying to scrap all what was agreed upon in previous sessions - they want to take us back to point zero."
    On Sunday Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki declared that he will seek UN recognition in September.
    Chile recognised Palestine as a state on Sunday. Last month Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia and Ecuador did the same and Uruguay, Paraguay and Peru are expected to follow suit.
    Mr Malki said that PA officials have been talking to Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador and that Spain has promised to recognise Palestine in September.
    Spain would be the first western European country to do so. Former socialist states in eastern Europe, including Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania, were among those who recognised Palestine in 1988.

    http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/index.php/news/content/view/full/99721

    Spain is a bit late in the game, but sooner than the rest of Western Europe, joining the ranks of nations who would rather recognize and accept both the nations of Palestine and Israel than to justify the murder of hated Semites.


    The US government, on the otherhand, is still silly enough to continue justifying Israeli illegal settlement madness:

    US: Chile's silence on Palestine borders helps peace process
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4013011,00.html
     
  2. moon

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    I hope that the Spanish promise comes to fruition. Having European nations unite in recognizing Israel's crimes will put an end to Zionist plans for EU entry.
     
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    Will they recognize Jerusalem as its capital?
     
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    Al Quds as the capital is the deal.

    Viva Espanol !
     
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    Al Quds :ignore: Another palliwood invention!
     
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    Cant read the map, perhaps you can blow it up (whoops,:omg: nevermind)
     
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    Who will be the ruling regime of a future unified Palestine?

    Ideally it would be the 'unity' govt the two have agreed on in the past...but in reality those agreements look tenuous at best.

    A tenet of the criteria for statehood requires an entity such as the occupied territories as having effective leadership. This would not seem to be the case right now.

    Let them have their statehood. It will little more than symbolism until Hamas and Fatah can bury the hatchet and come up with some kind of power sharing deal. How do you folks like the prospects of that?

    How about a three state solution? Gaza, Israel and the WB?

    Jerusalem was Jerusalem long before Mohammad walked the earth. Good luck with that...but the the other disputed territories are within reason.

    Why do they choose the 67 borders to recognize anyways?

    Look at what the Palestinians couldve had in 1947:

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    They want it all. Even tho folks like moon (and Hamas) yearns to see one state and Israel dismantled,this is not what these countries are signing on for.The problem is the people Spain is putting their trust in to maintain an effective govt that conducts itself in a responsible manner is doing so with looking at history. This a political play. These silly countries do not have the capacity or foresight (or willingness) to see the consequences of a prematurely independent "Palestine".
     
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    Nice one. Spain will be a welcome addition, as will Australia. Portugal should follow the Spanish example.

    'Relevant' ;
    An extremely silly suggestion, epitomizing the usual armchair Zionist misunderstanding of history, the United nations and international law.
    The 1947 division of British Mandated Palestine was a proposal for world States to consider. The population of Palestine, jewish and arab, took no part in the vote. It wasn't passed by any huge majority and the Zionist invaders immediately ignored the proposal and began their planned ethnic cleansing program.

     
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    the name predates palestine.

    learn some history.
     
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    Indeed it is.
     
  12. MrRelevant

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    lol...no ones surprised you think the facts are silly.

    Cry about it not being fair,cry about it not being binding...the truth is the Arabs rejected an offer out of hand that now would seem to be much, much better than what theyre scrambling to secure. Israelis wanted peace in 1948,the Arabs wanted to fight. Israel gave them the fight they wanted once a peaceful settlement was obviously in tatters.

    Repeat after me- The Arabs COULDVE had what the partition offered them.

    They didnt choose wisely.
     
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    A silly repeat of an earlier silly post. The Zionists' ethnic cleansing program made any division impossible. Did the Palestinians immediately make deadly forays into the ' jewish ' division ? No, they did not. Did the Zionists immediately make deadly forays into the Palestinian ' division ' ? Yes, they most surely did. It was their stated intent even before the United Nations existed. It isn't possible to find a horse capable of dragging the weight of that Zionist crap. Dump it.
     
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    Sorry champ. The facts dont support your propaganda.

    Arab League Secretary Azzam Pasha on September 16, 1947:

     
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    Talk. It was the Zionists who did the attacking. They even bombed the British in a civilian hotel. Try some pre-1947 speeches by Zionist leaders, just to get a flavor of what they planned in the way of ethnic cleansing.

    Your defense will fail, ' relevant '. History has survived Zionist efforts to alter it.

     
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    Its not my defense moon, this is the historical record.

    http://www.palestinehistory.com/history/phototime/tl_1947_2.htm
     
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    Oh, that's the 'historical record ' is it, ' relevant' ? Hysterical record, you mean ? :mrgreen: From your link;

    :mrgreen:


     
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    sorry still missing the most important countries UK,USA,France,CA,NZ, Aussies, good luck forcing anything on israel with these countries backing it.


    they went all or nothing in 48 and now there complaining they got nothing they just need to move on with there lives and stay in 1 of the many arab countries.
     
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    According to Nicholas Sarkozy, Israel was running out of time:

    Sarkozy had three clear and stark messages for Netanyahu. And they were-
    "You think you've got time, but you don't. You think you have an alternative solution, but you don't. You think you're stronger than the Palestinians, but you're not."

    http://frenchtribune.com/teneur/102606-wikileaks-tells-about-sarkozys-view-israel-and-palestine

    Norway says it will be first EU nation to recognise Palestine
    http://gulfnews.com/news/region/pal...rst-eu-nation-to-recognise-palestine-1.745921

    Guyana recognises Palestine as sovereign state
    Guyana has formally recognized Palestine as a free, independent, and sovereign state, based on its 1967 borders, a statement from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said today.
    The ministry said that the decision is in keeping with Guyana’s long standing and unwavering solidarity with and commitment to the just and …..
    http://www.stabroeknews.com/2011/news/breaking/01/13/guyana-recognises-palestine-as-sovereign-state/


    Suriname to recognize Palestine
    http://www.stabroeknews.com/2011/news/breaking/01/13/suriname-to-recognize-palestine/

    The clock is ticking.
     
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    This will change. it is changing.
     
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    So my link is acceptable....great!

    From my link:

    So the vast majority of the Jews accepted the plan,opposed only by extremists who Ive derided in other threads. Arabs however across the board rejected it. Palestianian folks obiding by wishes of their Arab masters decided to fight for it all and lost.

    Should I hold my breath for you to deride the Arab extremists (aka most of the Arab world) who chose war over peace?
     
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    You're still missing the point - which has become a characteristic. Resolution 181 didn't create an Israeli State for acceptance/rejection and it didn't create a Palestinian State for acceptance/rejection. The UN voted on the idea of partition and your repetitive drivel that the Palestinians turned down Statehood is grade A nonsense. Retract it.
    Further, the Palestinians themselves didn't get to vote on the idea. The idea was rejected by thirteen other countries whilst ten others abstained. Your blowhard tripe has been aired enough. Bin it.
     
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    It created a chance for two entities to live side by side in their respective states.....Israeli accepted,Arabs rejected.
     
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    So with your unified new country will you have Arab live side by side with jew or will you follow hamas and hezbollah policy of driving the jews into the sea?
     
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    finally, jews will have less lands in holy sites. those devils have long ruined great places.
     

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