The Moderate Muslim Brotherhood

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  1. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Even as Western commentators condemn the Muslim Brotherhood for its Islamism, radicals in the Middle East condemn it for rejecting jihad and embracing democracy. Such relative moderation offers Washington a notable opportunity for engagement -- as long as policymakers recognize the considerable variation between the group's different branches and tendencies.



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    The Muslim Brotherhood is the world's oldest, largest, and most influential Islamist organization. It is also the most controversial, condemned by both conventional opinion in the West and radical opinion in the Middle East. American commentators have called the Muslim Brothers "radical Islamists" and "a vital component of the enemy's assault force ... deeply hostile to the United States." Al Qaeda's Ayman al-Zawahiri sneers at them for "lur[ing] thousands of young Muslim men into lines for elections ... instead of into the lines of jihad."

    Jihadists loathe the Muslim Brotherhood (known in Arabic as al-Ikhwan al-Muslimeen) for rejecting global jihad and embracing democracy. These positions seem to make them moderates, the very thing the United States, short on allies in the Muslim world, seeks. But the Ikhwan also assails U.S. foreign policy, especially Washington's support for Israel, and questions linger about its actual commitment to the democratic process.

    Over the past year, we have met with dozens of Brotherhood leaders and activists from Egypt, France, Jordan, Spain, Syria, Tunisia, and the United Kingdom. In long and sometimes heated discussions, we explored the Brotherhood's stance on democracy and jihad, Israel and Iraq, the United States, and what sort of society the group seeks to create. The Brotherhood is a collection of national groups with differing outlooks, and the various factions disagree about how best to advance its mission. But all reject global jihad while embracing elections and other features of democracy. There is also a current within the Brotherhood willing to engage with the United States. In the past several decades, this current -- along with the realities of practical politics -- has pushed much of the Brotherhood toward moderation.

    U.S. policymaking has been handicapped by Washington's tendency to see the Muslim Brotherhood -- and the Islamist movement as a whole -- as a monolith. Policymakers should instead analyze each national and local group independently and seek out those that are open to engagement. In the anxious and often fruitless search for Muslim moderates, policymakers should recognize that the Muslim Brotherhood presents a notable opportunity.

    (Robert S. Leiken is Director of the Immigration and National Security Programs at the Nixon Center and the author of the forthcoming "Europe's Angry Muslims". Steven Brooke is a Research Associate at the Nixon Center.)
     
  2. waltky

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    Brotherhood gonna co-opt the Egyptian revolution...
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    Will the Muslim Brotherhood soon control Egypt's parliament?
    May 1, 2011 - The Muslim Brotherhood's new plans to contest 50 percent of Egypt's parliamentary seats in upcoming elections are sparking concern that it will impose its Islamist ideas on the population.
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    And then extreme right wingers and Islamophobes will say democracy and liberty must be thwarted.
     
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    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    The imposition of a tyrannical theocracy which has as it's highest law sharia, is not Democracy or liberty.

    No matter how many times liberals lie and try to claim such.

    Nice try though....;)
     
  5. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    The imposition is, but the order itself isnt. But why is that relevant?

    Ok, but I'm not a liberal.

    Nice try of what?
     
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    Muslim Brotherhood comin' down on US NGO's...
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    Muslim Brotherhood backs crackdown on US NGOs
    February 2, 2012 -- Leading members of the Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party, which recently secured a majority in parliament, say they support the military's high-profile investigation into two American nonprofit groups operating in Egypt, citing concerns that such groups could be bringing the country more harm than good.
     
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    You are absolutely right, and the OP is utter NONSENSE, if not Muslim Brotherhood propaganda, written by a Muslim Brotherhood operative (of which I suspect there are quite a few in this forum). The Brotherhood's MO is stealth jihad, seeking, as you said, a "tyrannical theocracy", a caliphate, an Islamic state, which wold be the farthest thing from democracy that anyone could envision. Morsi's action in Egypt, essentially declaring himself king, and trashing the "democracy" that brought him to power, are a perfect example of what will happen if these uncivilized, barbaric savages ever get control of the US govt. They will destroy it, exactly as they vow to do in their documented declaration of war upon America - their Explanatory Memorandum of May 22, 1991, which has never been reputiated by a single Ikhwan member in 21 years.

    "The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

    Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al
     
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    "Support Freedom & Liberty - defeat jihad & despots."

    Including the STEALTH Jihad of the Muslim Brotherhood and it's dozens of US front groups:

    US Muslim Brotherhood front groups (source: US Justice Dept.)

    CAIR, ISNA, MAS, MSA, ICNA, FCNA, MAYA, AEF, UASR, IAP, BMI, IIIT, IMANA, AMSE, ICNA, Islamic Institute, AMC, AMF, Success Foundation, GSISS AKA Cordoba University, NAIF, IIFTIKHAR, AMSS, TIAA, IRO, African Muslim Agency, Safa Trust, SAAR Foundation, MMCT, Dar El-Eiman USA, ADAMS, IANA, GRF, MWL, MYNA, HHT, Islamic Academy of Florida, Fairfax Institute, AMT, IIFSO, AMCE, AMAFVAC, CISNA, Isalmic Media Foundation, et al
     
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    Muslim Brotherhood gains greater influence in Egyptian Cabinet...
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    Morsi Expands Brotherhood Influence in Egyptian Cabinet
    January 06, 2013 - Egypt's Islamist President Mohamed Morsi has expanded the number of Muslim Brotherhood ministers in his Cabinet as part of a reshuffle aimed at improving the government's handling of an economic crisis.
     
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    Merry Christmas Morsi!...
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    Egypt names Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group
    Dec. 25, 2013 — Egypt's military-backed interim government on Wednesday declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group, criminalizing all its activities, its financing and even membership to the group from which the country's ousted president hails.
     
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    I can't tell if you support the MB because you think you're being witty and cool with your catch phrases or because, as a liberal, you share a common mindset with people who want to exterminate anybody who doesn't believe what they do.
     
  12. bill hill

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    There is no such thing as the title of the thread suggests!
     
  13. Jango

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    Muslim Brotherhood equals Islamists therefore equaling NOT moderate.
     

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