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Thread: Debate: Israel – victim or aggressor?

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    they are victims until the mid east becomes democratic, they cannot reason with such governments and must act accordingly
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    Quote Originally Posted by liberalminority View Post
    they are victims until the mid east becomes democratic, they cannot reason with such governments and must act accordingly
    Would a democratic middle east act any differently and why?

    For example, most of the democratic world around the world today supports the palestinians. So where does that leave you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by creation View Post
    Um DePaul's actual scholars sided with Finkelstein, as did the American association of university professors. As demonstrated.

    Cant you also respond to the post I made and you quoted?

    Do you think its ok to slander peoples parents?
    That's why they kicked his butt out, right??

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberalminority View Post
    they are victims until the mid east becomes democratic, they cannot reason with such governments and must act accordingly
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    That's why they kicked his butt out, right??
    Well no that is not right. Looks like you do not even know what happen there. Finkelstein resigned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    That's why they kicked his butt out, right??
    Uh yeah thats right, why dont you tell us more since youre so knowledgable?

    "but it is nevertheless true that it is value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property. Every proprietor, therefore, of cultivated land owes to the community a ground-rent, for I know no better term to express the idea by, for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice

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    It'll always be a fact: The "jews" drew first blood in Palestine by poisoning the Pali water wells. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Third Man View Post
    Maybe you would like to explain how a country with the most advanced military machine in the middle east is somehow a victim of guys who have home made rockets and AK47's? The Israeli military have managed to waste 20-30,000 civilians in Lebanon and Gaza in the past 30 years where as very few Israeli have actually died. Rocket attacks from Gaza have claimed 22 lives and one of those was a Thai national working in Israel. It is like saying that America was the victim in the Vietnam war,it is a joke not based on reality. It is just a blind faith in Israel whatever they do be it murder/torture/imprisonment without trial. Anyone who says that Israel is a victim has absolutely no moral compass at all.
    Only a 1000 a year??? Hey, Israel, do we need to send you more bullets, bombs and missiles???

    Hey, Jack, like I said, I have watch things develope over there for the last 56 years, go talk to some dumb young kids who haven't the foggest except what people like you tell them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Only a 1000 a year??? Hey, Israel, do we need to send you more bullets, bombs and missiles???

    It is pretty disgraceful that you would like to see more innocent people killed but that is where you are at in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Third Man View Post
    Well no that is not right. Looks like you do not even know what happen there. Finkelstein resigned.
    Good Lord, 3rd, once more;

    In 2007, after a highly publicized row between Finkelstein and a notable opponent of his, Alan Dershowitz, Finkelstein's tenure bid at DePaul was denied. Finkelstein was placed on administrative leave for the 2007–2008 academic year, and on September 5, 2007, he announced his resignation after coming to a settlement with the university on generally undisclosed terms.

    When DePaul refused to give Finkelstein tenure and place him on administrative leave, in the Academic circles that means he was in essence, FIRED!!!

    So, shall we go through it slowly so you can understand???

    ""Finkelstein was placed on administrative leave""

    Oh, he did something that was undesirable so he got his tail stuck at home because they didn't want it at the university. They refused to give him tenure. In the outside world that means they refused to guarantee hire him back. So, put altogether, DePaul refused to hire him back and kicked his butt out of the school and left him at home and he then settled for the best deal he could get and resigned. That's the way they offer an easy out to an officer in the service when he has screwed up big time.

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