Not tiresome; just historical fact
The evidence which you provide here for the Jews’ ‘a priori’ right to Israel is flawed because it dates back way before the time when the Jews were only a tiny minority in Palestine; a situation which lasted for many hundreds if not thousands of years. There were others who remained in Palestine during this period as a clear majority. Surely THEY have the overwhelming right from deep-history?
Originally Posted by RevAnarchist
But your position is flawed for an even more fundamental reason. Do your nephew’s books tell you what happened to the indigenous peoples of the land of Canaan, who were there when Abram was supposed to have drifted by? Apparently not, because you imply that they "became extinct". Do they tell you what modern archaeologists believe; those who are not swayed by old legends written hundreds of years after the fact? Let me explain.
Modern scientific consensus is that many of the legends quoted in the Bible are not historically accurate. The Israelites formed as a religious sect (believing in monotheism) within the same peoples who had ancestrally occupied these lands for millennia. This explains the DNA results which make Mizrahi Jews all but indistinguishable from Palestinians based on their Haplogroup J1 (defined by the 267 marker). The differences displayed by Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews are adequately explained by later intermixing with European lineages. The conclusion is that the Israelites were just as indigenous to Palestine as the other inhabitants of the area.
What happened then? It is believed that many pagans were converted to this new monotheistic sect – they became Jews. Then, with the onset of Christianity and persecution of the Jews by the Romans, many (but obviously not all) Jews converted to Christianity. In the 8th century a new conversion occurred, this time to Islam. But these conversions to-and-fro all largely involved the ancestors of the original inhabitants of Canaan; peoples whose DNA was essentially the same over millennia. They were all always from the same ancestral root stock, some being swayed by new faiths and others not. It is a simple uncomplicated explanation that does not need to fight the genetic evidence.
Therefore, any argument that you make for the Jews having a deep historical right to Israel/Palestine, applies equally to the Palestinians, with one exception. The Jews left. The Palestinians remained where they had always been, guarding the herds of sheep and goats and tending the olive and almond trees of Palestine. Do your nephews books reflect this modern view?
Last edited by klipkap; Mar 12 2012 at 05:15 AM.
I deal in facts. If anyone finds 'facts' to be anti-Semetic; Jew hating, neo-Nazi; Islamo-fascist, etc, I disclaim any responsibility for their delusions