Revealed: Obama's CT Social Security # Traced To John Paul Ludwig (Lived CT-Died HI)

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  1. Apuzzo

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    This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.


    This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.

    The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.

    Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

    This is what we know about Ludwig:

    In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.

    On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US.

    Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings.

    Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924:

    Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure:
    Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008

    Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA

    Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC

    Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always

    Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None

    Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.

    http://www.ellisisland.org/sign/ind...port=Cherbourg,*France&page=&ACT=LL&section=3


    First Name: Jean P.
    Last Name: Ludwig
    Ethnicity: France
    Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
    Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
    Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
    Ship of Travel: Leviathan
    Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
    Manifest Line Number: 0008

    U.S. Social Security Death Index
    Name: Jean Ludwig
    Birth Date: 17 February 1890
    Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
    Death Date: June 1981
    Estimated Age at Death: 91
     
  2. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Interesting stuff. Nothing would surprise me about Obama. NOTHING.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The question that begs to be asked that no-one is asking... WHY? It would mostly be illegal aliens who'd steal dead man SS number... right?
     
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    Interesting ... two locations of death. And interesting Obama was in HI and/or CA at various times in his early life ... but never in CT. And SSN for Sean Paul Ludwig was the one used on the back dated, forged Selective Service registration form for Obama which was filed via the Chicago IL office when Obama was not in the Chicago IL office area of responsibility. Given the corruption in Chicago and all the friends in many places one can see how they likely got access to the necessary forms via the Chicago IL office and some insider in the Chicago IL Sel Service office did the dirty deed and got it entered into the records retroactively. They were clever but not perfect and the forgery was detected by a federal officer. At age 18 Obama was either in HI or CA which means that Sel Service registration should have been processed in the west coast Sel Service office, not the mid-American district. But that Obama use the SSN of Sean Paul Ludwig is 100% confirmed by the number being used when Obama's name was entered into the Selective Service system.
     
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    wtf...thats my social, it cant be Obamas
     
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    Yes, this is very interesting news. I am awaiting for more information to come out.
     
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    And what's ironic is that Ludwig came over as a immigrant.
     
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    It's not that I don't believe you, but do you have a link to this?
    I'm certain that this will never make the LSM.
     
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    Leftists will either ignore this bad news or just deny it. There is nothing substantive they can do to change this. Drip, drip, drip....
     
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    Obama is bad news, always has been. He has the press in his pocket and on his side. MSM will not report this, they are bought off by Sorors for his own America destroying agenda.
     
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    are you bruce Willis?
     
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    Jiyuu-Freedom Keep the peace Past Donor

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    So we've had the birther threads for months and months. What shall we call this?:mrgreen:
     
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    I have discounted the 'birth-er' stuff simply because I figured Obama would get the democrat exception, as always occurs, and the public would be dazzled by the smoke and mirrors of the defense, the Clinton factor.

    This, however, is understandable. If BoBo is using a stolen SS number, it calls his entire history into question and even the most idiotic member of the public can figure that out.

    I hope this proves to be BS simply disproven as we need, desperately, something approaching leadership in Washington right now and a legit, but stupid, President would be better than a year or so of trying to get rid of him.

    While I believe Obama is very dangerous and is damaging the nation, the fight to get rid of him outside of an election would be worse...
     
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    You can chalk it up to 'persistence pays off'.
     
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    not really, as the lawsuit filed by taitz(like every other birther lawsuit)has been dismissed.
     
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    It still has the looks of not going away. Maybe we will never know the truth...but maybe we will some day and if any of this is true, it will go down in history as the most bizarre presidency ever.
     
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    lol!! Maybe for you conspiracy wackos like you.
     
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    This FOIA lawsuit hasn't.
     
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    I don't understand how having another birther lawsuit go away in any way explains a bogus SS number.
     
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    yes, the SCOTUS refused to hear it.
     
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    well, there is no evidence this SS# is obama's for one thing.
     
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    It does not. On the other hand, CT SS number ties nicely with Obama's birth certificate being AWOL and absence of any and all documents from his youth.
     
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    Isn't this something? We know the ship the man sailed over on in 1924, his fee he paid, his height, weight, and who employed him and all his references in less than 24 hours since this broke and we still can't get anything on Obama's records.
     
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    lol, how does obama being the ONLY president to ever provide a birth certificate=it being awol.
     
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    making excuses for your crackpot conspiracy theories isnt discounting them lol
     

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