The whole scenario affects the corner. You seem to be somewhat obsessed with the corner itself as though it has some sort of independent movement. It is part of his jacket.
When the jacket moves, the corner moves. When rippling occurs, the tendency of a fabric would be to unripple, since it is not it's natural state.
When contact occurs from an object it will cause inertial motion to the jacket, when the object swings away, it pulls the fabric back. The swinging object will cause gentle air currents which will have a minor effect. The movement of the jacket in and out will also produce small air currents.
In addition to the swinging object, we have the lateral motion of his torso as each knee comes up alternately. We have the upward motion it induces, followed by immediate downforce as he pushes with his arms on the bulkhead above.
We have even more lateral and vertical rotation in his shoulders as his knees come up and arms push down.
Every single thing involved in his movement causes inertial forces that affect his jacket.
That is a completely irrelevant point. The semi-rigid hose is what is causing the attachment to impact his lower jacket, as it pulls on it. It also flexes with his body motion and causes it to swing inwards and outwards.The hose is too far above the corner to cause it to go back down when it stops going up.
Making a blanket statement of opinion. The jacket has clearly air buffered at the back, because of earlier movement in the cabin with it unfastened.The bulge would not be caused by zero-G.
Jackets do not puff up and billow like that in gravity. Weight will pull the fabric downwards and much tighter against a body.
Now, I suggest you stop and think about what you are saying, because in addition to contradicting yourself and trying to wriggle out of it, you now suggest that the trapped air in his back is under some sort of pressure?Originally Posted by reference youtube
Air does not magically pressurise when it is trapped. Higher pressure only occurs with something to compress it, and in an enclosed environment. May i suggest that his jacket has no magic compressor attached to it, nor is it enclosed. The jacket clearly billows as he jogs up and down.
Question: Why do you assert that a loose jacket will bounce up and down in zero-g, but a corner attached to the jacket will not perform this same thing?
Question: What is causing the jacket to be puffed up with air?
Please think carefully before answering those questions.
That is your opinion, and I fail to see what you base it upon. I don't also see how it has any relevance. Most jackets of that type would have a fold and stitched area at the base to give it shape. So what?There seems to be something holding his jacket down in the back.
You are suggesting that something that is holding his jacket is in fact pulling it and causing wrinkles? Seriously?It's pulling the back of his jacket and causing wrinkles.
And there lies your main problem. You are simply denying something, because it destroys your contention. With Collins clearly in space and weightless, your argument no longer holds water.I don't see anything that I would attribute to zero-G.
Since you have been making this same argument for many years on several forums, I believe you do not have the integrity to finally admit, that after all those comments and assertions you are completely wrong.
To anybody watching those videos, there are clearly signs of zero-g.
The dogtags you allege are bouncing:- Video 2 and 4 shows them floating in front of his upper chest/ neck area. Video 4 repeats the passage over and over and clearly shows them making no contact with his chest at all, and moving side to side. Impossible with gravity in play.
The cuffs you insisted were resting on wrists:- Video 3 and 5 shows them floating with minimal arm movement, not in contact with any part of his wrist.
Impossible with gravity in play.
The back and shoulder area:- Demonstrated unequivocably to be puffed up, billowing with movement and under no downward pull.
Impossible with gravity in play.
He rises off of the floor:- This occurs twice, and each time he makes no discernible pushing motion with his legs, rises slowly, then gently descends.
Impossible with gravity in play.
I keep seeing you say this. The forces have been identified above. Since we have clear signs of zero-g, your argument is baseless. Repetitive opinion, does not represent proof.The main evidence is the corner and there's no identifiable force making the jacket corner stop going up and go back down except for gravity.
Here is my opinion. You have confessed to having no scientific qualifications, you clearly do not understand inertial motion, you consistently ignore stunningly obvious signs of zero-g, you make assertions that are groundless and parrot the same nonsense over and over. The idea never occurs to you that you are way beyond hopelessly wrong, as I believe you would see it as a weakness to admit that.
The corner never does that. It never stops and goes back down. It is in constant motion.There's nothing his arms are doing that would cause the corner of the jacket to stop and go back down.
So you contend that lateral and vertical motion of his torso and legs makes no difference to the dynamics of his overall motion? That is just daft.The same goes for his torso and his legs.
Technically there is no "upward". The corner has numerous forces making it move continuously.The movement from them doesn't arrive to the jacket corner except when it is pulled upward.
No idea what you mean. Rippling fabric will tend to straighten to its natural state.The material is too loose to push it back down.
I do not believe you. I am making a video about this, as soon as my nephew can get around here for me to film doing this. I have performed this very thing myself, and have not managed at any time to keep the items in the air for more than a split second, and only side to side with extremely exaggerated neck movement.I was able to duplicate the movement of the dogtags with some keys around my neck. I jogged in place and added a little extra forward movement to my upper body. I also duplicated the movement of the jacket corner by putting a light jacket on a hanger and bouncing it up and down.
There is a very easy way to resolve this, film it, or ask somebody to film it, and put it up for all to see.
You are in denial. The film clearly shows the sleeves loosely floating, not touching his wrist at all, with very little arm movement.As soon as all movement stops, the cuffs immediately rest on their upper wrists. I don't see anything that looks like zero-G cuff-wise.
Video 1:Please address my last post.
The lady in question is tethered by a device to stop her lifting. Collins was not.
The lady in question is actually running on a treadmill, Collins was jogging on the spot.
The tags are changing direction, moving with her body. There is no object striking them.
In short, no comparison at all.
The motion of his jacket is predominatly in a horizontal direction until he starts to run. There are similarities in the motion of his jacket and Collins', as you would expect since his jacket is connected to his body and moving about.
No object is impacting his jacket.
The lady is moving extremely slowly, just floating. She has a waist pouch just above her backside, which assists in allowing air into the lower part of her jacket. She is not jogging and has no object impacting her.
Now a final question.
Question: What did you mean by this statement.
"If it turns out that there really is some floating, it can be explained by their being in a diving plane faking zero-G."