PF Debates: Will You Participate?

Discussion in 'Debates & Contests' started by E_Pluribus_Venom, Jul 9, 2011.

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Are you willing to participate in 1 on 1 debates here at PoliticalForum?

  1. Yes

    52.6%
  2. No

    25.3%
  3. Maybe... Some clarification is needed

    24.2%
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  1. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Pretty straight forward. We'd like to get a preliminary head count of members interested in debate participation (keeping in mind that no structure has been decided on at this point in time... particularly regarding the judging process). Those of you who have contacted me via pm with launch inquiries can make their intentions known here. Thanks in advance
     
  2. Shangrila

    Shangrila staff Past Donor

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    Thanks.
    Its a may be for me. Gotta see how it works, how much time it would take, depending on the word/post count, and also on subject.
    Some stuff I wouldn't want myself involved in....either none of my business, or something I know too little about.
     
  3. Agent Zero

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    Depends on the topic or if I'm asked to judge (would that count as participation?).
     
  4. Shangrila

    Shangrila staff Past Donor

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    Only if they don't duck tape us.;)
     
  5. FactChecker

    FactChecker New Member

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    Dependent upon final implementation. If the part I referenced earlier changes at any point, I will almost certainly participate. If not, it is most likely that I will not.
     
  6. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    What about those who asked on the potential judging pool thread?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/forum-help-feedback-etc/195411-potential-judging-pool.html
     
  7. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    No way will I participate in this Sham. Who here has the right to ''Judge another Poster'' and why? I can only imagine the Taunting the ''Loser'' will receive,,,LOL
    Just look at some of the ''Gotcha'' posts and you will have an idea, and who are those ''Gotcha'' comments from? Why they are from SOME of the very people that want to be judges,,,HAHAHAHAAH What a JOKE! HAHAHAAHAHAH

    Secondly I would like to see all the other debates here that are having a ''Problem'' due to other posters. I have never had a problem with any debate I have ever had, none. This is a nothing more than a couple of show offs that feel ''They'' deserve their own private thread,,,Selfish Much?
    We have been told other posters may learn from this,,,LOL,,,How utterly arrogant and condescending can you get!!!! I wonder, has it crossed their egotistical little minds that those other posters do not care for how ''They Post''?, and that boring is NOT better,,,it's just boring...

    Put it where it belongs, it's a group, leave our other threads alone.

    This site has always been a open posting one, there is no reason to change that, however if a few posters want to have a private one on one they are welcome to form a group, and have many options open to them. This is where ''EXCLUSIVE'' posting belongs.
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  8. Trinnity

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    I wasn't paying proper attention and meant I was volunteering to debate. I never even considered judging. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    This is what Catch posted:
     
  9. John1735

    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    Um yeah, sure. Lets have a one on one debate where the liberals ignore the facts, make emotionally driven arguments, and in the end, have their fellow liberal who consistently troll and flamebait, pose as fair and impartial judges, to in the end, declare the liberal to be the winner of the debate.

    Yeah sure sounds like an activity I'm interested in participating with.

    Note the sarcasm.

    :rolleyes:
     
  10. Carls

    Carls Member

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    I will like to debate in the forum :)
     
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  11. Terrapinstation

    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Sounds kinda cool in theory, but in reality it won't work. There's no way in hell someone like TFM, Tea, etc are going to 'rule' against a liberal debator. And I'm sure conservative judges will lean towards conservative debators.
     
  12. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    I dont think they have any conservative debaters....:laughing:


    Get out the fork,,,this Turkey is done......
     
  13. Shangrila

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    Of course you are assuming it won't be both tea and tfm in the hot seat, with a con as judge.
     
  14. Agent Zero

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    tom is a huge liberal, is he?
     
  15. Swamp_Music

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    The Liberal position is (and correct me if I’m wrong :roll: ) they can do SO many great things after robbing the bank, that the theft is ok, permitted and acceptable. I reject that logic out-of-hand. If anyone wants to debate original intent of the Constitution I would be glad to. The Left's position (that the Constitution describes an unlimited federal government capable of doing ANYTHING) if faulty, historically inaccurate, and wholly illegitimate since their wealth distribution and social engineering schemes were only allowed after Democrat FDR threatened the Supreme Court so they would stop ruling his "New Deal" unconstitutional in 1937.

    What would the debate be about, whether the Supreme Law of the Land (Constitution) is indeed still the Supreme Law of the Land? Should we debate whether destroying the founding principles (that sought to guarantee individual liberty, and private property rights) is a Martha Stewart type “Good Thing…”? Should we debate if we should adopt Socialism as an economic and political system (it MUST be both as there can be no unalienable liberty in a socialist economy)? Can't make such a change as any wealth distribution destroys individual liberty; an unalienable right... Oh, perhaps you want to debate if rights are unalienable, and bestowed apron their creation by God. See, I don't get it, please explain...
     
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    Have some *******s been crying about getting pick on in some of these threads?
    ask yourself one simple question, what the hell is happening to the forum? why
    are we even talking about such a ploy?

    Conservative Judges or Liberal Judges, it's does not matter both are a bad idea to
    either side. And what the hell is the real goal here? I might leave this forum if this goes
    through, this is not what I came here for, to be Judged, nor do I want it going on
    in a public forum to anyone.

    You can't stack the cards right for either side. is this now what this forum is about?
    Just let me know so I can leave.

    ...
     
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  17. Frogger

    Frogger Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So far it is running two to one against participation. A vote as lopsided as that should effectively kill the idea unless the person first proposing it is arrogant enough to go against the will of the majority of posters.

    Political Forum has been a discussion site, not a contest site and it should stay that way. As soon as you set up an official adversarial condition with an artificial arena in which one person is declared the winner and the other the loser you change the dynamics of the site. Having one poster, or even a small group of posters officially judge the worth of another poster is a dangerous precident.

    I consider myself a good poster and a good debater and honestly feel I would probably win the majority of debates in which I participated but there is no way I will participate in an exercise I feel is counterproductive to the wellbeing of Political Forum.
     
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  18. liberalminority

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    it look like a conservative moderator should endorse this with venom to gain popularity on the other side for the poll
     
  19. flounder

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    It's not really about any of that, it's about winning or losing....This is how you have to plan your strategy..Nail the Guy,,once you got him,,back off because you dont want to say too much...follow? :laughing:
     
  20. Swamp_Music

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    Actually that is not even true. For any thread their might be fifteen people who actually post, and hundreds if not thousands of people who actually view; the silent majority. I say post as much factual information as possible to prove your point. Let them, the silent majority who actually control this country process the information. No one will ever change the mind of a poster from the “other side.” The battleground is to engage the onlookers....follow? :laughing:
     
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  21. paco

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    Cowards. This is an open, public forum. If you can't handle the heat, then **** of the kitchen!
     
  22. flounder

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    They want to wear Aprons and Mittens....HAHAHAHAAHAH

    Too much to handle......
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  23. flounder

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    That's usually true...I agree, but here the Liberal judges will just ding you.....:mrgreen:
     
  24. Gwendoline

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    This is a great opportunity for those who wish to “sharpen their pencils” / challenge themselves for a more formal, measured and serious format of debate. I don’t understand the complaints. I think it’s a great move for the forum.

    The cries of "elitism" are ridiculous. I’d put the emphasis on INTEREST. How interested in a subject are we? How much would we like to debate our interest / persuasion of a subject? This is a great idea / incentive for ANYONE passionate / keen to DEBATE their position / view of a subject.

    And truly, I thought those at the top of the Top Reputations would be delighted by this move. A chance to showcase what put them there at the top of the stack.
     
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  25. pjohns

    pjohns Well-Known Member

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    I voted in the negative. But allow me, please, to elucidate.

    Apparently, those who have volunteered to do the judging include Think for myself; teamosil; Janpor; liberalminority; Agent Zero; Kimaris; and Catch. Which strikes me as a pool that is heavily skewed to the left.

    Ideally, one would like to suppose that those of a leftist mindset could leave their biases aside, and judge fairly and objectively. Yes, ideally.

    In the real world, however, that prospect seems, well, a bit quixotic.

    The triumphalist attitude frequently displayed by several of these posters, whenever they believe they have scored some rhetorical points, tends to belie any pretense of objectivity.

    Just my opinion...
     

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