It's About Darn Time...

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  1. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FBI intends to trawl controversial ICE program:

    The FBI plans to play a big role in a controversial immigration program that sifts through local police records to root out illegal immigrants, according to government documents obtained by opponents of the program.

    The program, Secure Communities, gives Immigration and Customs Enforcement access to local police records and fingerprints when they are routed through the FBI's database. ICE then uses those records to determine whether someone in a local jail may be in the country illegally.

    Publicly, the FBI is supposed to be a passive participant in Secure Communities, or S-Comm, automatically notifying ICE of potential immigration problems whenever one appears in a criminal record requested by a local police agency.

    But the new documents — published this week by organizations that contend that S-Comm is a Big Brother weapon to round up and deport all illegal immigrants — describe the program in much broader, cross-agency terms:

    Participation by local law enforcement is "inevitable because SC is only the first of a number of biometric interoperability systems being brought online by the FBI 'Next Generation Identification' (NGI) project," according to the key document — a joint FBI/ICE guide to building support for S-Comm. (NGI is the FBI's planned expansion of its fingerprint database to include other identifiers, such as facial recognition.)

    S-Comm raised concerns in dozens of states and in Congress after msnbc.com reported last year that although federal authorities were consistently telling local law enforcement agencies that their participation was voluntary, internal ICE and DHS documents made it clear that the agencies always intended it to be a mandatory program.

    The DHS inspector general's office opened an investigation in May into how S-Comm has been sold to local authorities.

    Bridget Kessler, a lawyer for the Cardozo Law School Immigration Justice Clinic, one of the groups that obtained the documents under the Freedom of Information Act, said the records "provide a fascinating glimpse into the FBI's role in forcing S-Comm on states and localities. The FBI's desire to pave the way for the rest of the NGI project seems to have been a driving force in the policy decision to make S-Comm mandatory."

    The documents are available in PDF form on the organizations' website, Uncover the Truth.

    Many local leaders have sought to suspend their agencies' participation — including New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo last month — but ICE and DHS insist they don't have that prerogative.

    In fact, the FBI/ICE guide states explicitly that local "non-participation" measures will have no effect on nationwide deployment of the program.

    "Once interoperability is activated in that jurisdiction, the arrestees' fingerprints will in fact be checked against (immigration records) ... and forwarded to the appropriate DRO (Detention and Removal) Field Office for information and action as appropriate," it says.

    The guide says it is intended to help federal authorities persuade a "resistant jurisdiction" to sign on to the program now, "instead of just flipping the switch in five years."

    It lays out three strategies: "penetrate the jurisdiction" by enlisting all of its neighbor cities and counties in a "ring of interoperability" of enthusiastic municipalities around the reluctant location; bypass local police entirely by going straight to state prisons; and drive home the point that "non-participation does not equate to non-deployment."

    Immigration advocates say the program encourages local law enforcement to round up suspected illegal immigrants on other charges so they will fall into the S-Comm net. At the same time, some law enforcement officials criticize the program as a de facto drafting of local resources to enforce federal laws.

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    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    The federal government cannot rely on localities to handle the problem- there are too many "safe haven" cities for illegals as it is. Even whole states, such as California and New Mexico, have too many hispanic voters to effectively take any real action against the problem.
     
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    ...and so far, the federal government has done little to deal with the problem, other than lip service.
     
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    This is not totally true.

    The local law enforcement is usually the first to stumble across illegal immigrants,via traffic stops,disturbances and so on.

    The debate over Hispanics having to many votes is a variable situation. There have been research that showed many illegals (Hispanics,Mexicans)that voted under false pretenses. This is why some states are requiring IDs to be show at the voting place.
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - it's about darn time...
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    Four reasons why illegal immigration across the US-Mexico border has dropped
    From 1970 to 2010, more than 10 million Mexicans migrated to the US. Now, after decades of rising numbers immigrating to the US, a new demographic trend is playing out: illegal immigration is waning.
     
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    Trinnity Banned

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    We have got to take this issue seriously.
     
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    I wonder of the high unemployment rate is a factor. I will get that it has been a big factor.
     
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    The thing that troubles me is the fact that Latino voters demonstrate a great sense of solidarity with illegal aliens, and no sense of solidarity with fellow American citizens.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is so true. That's why they will never be Americans.
     
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    People are fed up with the border being like a funnel.
     
  11. Anders Hoveland

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    Link to what is going on in California:
    http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...-facts-that-very-few-people-are-talking-about

    A few people made the following posts in the comment section:

    Rob: "I have lived here off and on for 42 years. Hellhole is not strong enough a word for it. One cannot go anywhere without seeing Graffitti from these gangs. Illegal Aliens are literally on every corner and every home depot. LA County alone spent 600 million in aid to illegal aliens not including education being factored in and the state spent 110 billion last year on just programs, welfare, aid to illegal entitlement programs, no ***** wonder why we are broke, the liberal agenda out here is astonishing, these liberals literally couldnt see the forest through the trees. I am so sick of seeing Nortenos, Surenos, LaFamilia, and other hispanic gangs crowding our prisons, illegals underage having their anchor babies, illegals crowding the ER’s, crowding the schools. No wonder why the teachers are pissed off. I agree, this state sucks, and we will be moving very soon.

    Franky: "a few times I tried to work in restaurants and got pushed out by the illegal Latinos."

    Jody: "I dont mind mexicans coming over, just do it legally and dont bring crime with you. What gets me is that all these gangs are taking over city blocks that dont belong to them. They didnt buy all these city blocks. They charge food venders rent to sell their food on “their property” which they have no rights to. The gangs that get life in prison for numerous murders should get the death penalty. Why should we pay to house these people their whole lives and they are still running gangs in prison anyway."

    "The Federation for American Immigration Reform also known as FAIR calculated approximately thirteen million illegal resident immigrants were residing in the United States of America as of 2007. Ten years ago the estimation was drastically lower at about five million illegal resident immigrants. This significant rise in the number of illegal immigrants has put a financial burden on the United States taxpayers."
     

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