Palestinian Jihad attack on Eilat was abduction attempt.

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    hursday's attack was designed to be an act of war -- well beyond the more routine rocket attacks. This report illustrates the coordinated assault that Israeli forces faced more fully than prior coverage. "IDF officer: Terrorists planned an abduction attack," by Yaakov Katz for the Jerusalem Post, August 21

    They hoped to follow Hamas in its abduction of Gilad Shalit (still a prisoner after 5 years), and Hizballah in their capture of Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, whose bodies were later swapped for release of the murderer Samir Kuntar.
    Tell the soldiers you will not exchange them for murderers but will level Gaza if needed. Only by fixing a high price on Jewish blood will the Arab aggressors learn,
     
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    Leaving out all the anti-Palestinian rhetoric the OP indulged in, there was actually a very good point being made. The PRC attackers WERE trying to capture/abduct an Israeli soldier and they were doing so because past experience by Hezbollah in Lebanon and Fatah and Hamas (the latest incident being Hamas) has shown that the Israelis will fuss a lot about such a captured soldier and will eventually give up quite a bit to get him back. If the Israelis want to put a stop to such behavior, the should have a non-negotiation policy put in place when it comes to soldier-hostages.
     
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    Evidence, please.
     
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    In the way the attack was planned, the bomb was supposed hit the army Jeep and the other incedents to draw the attention elsewhere, they acted the same way in Lebanon,

    I would mention the handcuffs they found on the bodies but that could also point to their intimate prefernces... warming up the cold desert nights....
     
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    Why don't you ask your buddy jihadist that you're always making excuses for?
     
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    In his mind, any jihadist who does something bad is a freedom fighter rebelling against the evil Zionist Jooos.

    It's nice that the left has an excuse to be anti-semitic.
     
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    Not all left are against israel and not all right are pro-israel...
    Such moronic binary way of thinking is part of the problem, not the solution.
     
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    If all Jews are Israelis, many are living in the wrong countries. If all Jews are not Israelis, then complaining about the behavior and policies of Zionist Israeli Jews is not anti-Semitic; it would only be anti-Semitic if it was stated that the Jewish religion was making them behave in that way (equivalent to Islamophobia, which is also tossed around too freely by some people).
     
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    It is anti semitic if people point out only to Israel.

    there many oppressed people, many walls, many occupations yet only Israel gets blamed for it.

    Why is there a Moroccan wall, why does turkey occupy Cyprus, Why did Pakistan expel millions of Hindu's.
     
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    We were not discussing the the Moroccan treatment of its ethnic minority or Turkey's treatment of its ethnic minority on Cyprus, or the mass migrations (forced and unforced) having to do with Indian and Pakistani independence decades ago. So from the point of view of the topic at hand that argument is meaningless, although I should point out that such situations in modern history are actually pretty unusual.

    Now if Dutch Clog Cyborg is trying to suggest that way too much attention is paid to Israel's bad behavior compared to other people's bad behavior he has a bit more of an argument. Even this is rather weak, though, because the real reasons Israel became so prominent were the Cold War and petroleum oil. The Soviet Union tried to drive a wedge between the United States and the arab countries by helping to orchestrate diplomatic attacks on Israel and arming several arab nations.

    The issue of oil is the other big reason Israel is so prominent. A good percentage of the nations who produce petroleum are mainly or are almost entirely Muslim, and the continued humiliation of the mainly Muslim Palestinians by the Israelis is a slap in the face to the Muslims (whose tradition of going to war against nations oppressing Islam is being openly ignored by their governments). This means that they instead ensure that Israel remains a major international talking point.

    If the Israelis were instead Fundamentalist Baptists who migrated from the southern United States to set up a wholly Christian nation in the Holy Land called Israel, I believe that Israel and its actions would receive just as much attention as do the actions of Jewish Israel. This is not to say that anti-Semitism hasn't increased greatly among Palestinians and their supporters, or that Israeli actions haven't encouraged the continuation of anti-Semitic attitudes among non-Muslims with a tradition of such attitudes, but that is as much the fault of the Israelis as it is that of the anti-Semites.
     
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    A nation defending itself from violent Islamic Jihad is a slap in the face of most muslims.
     

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