Liberals at New Republic Declares Perry the Winner of the Debate

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    http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/94678/how-rick-perry-won-the-debate

    In a rather condenscending manner, the liberals at New Republic have declared Rick Perry the winner of the GOP debate.

    Yes, Perry is alpha male, but part of the reason he is comes off as manly is the manliness of his ideas. The rugged Texan concept that people should take care of themselves and not look to the government for a handout is something East Coast liberals can't understand.

    The moderators tried hard to make Perry back off on social security but he wouldn't. He stuck to his guns that Social Security is a ponzi scheme and a fraud.

    The moderators tried to make Perry back off on the death penalty and he didn't. He said it did not disturb his conscience that there have been over 200 executions while he was governor.
     
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    I have my issues with Perry, but good on him for going after social security, which, despite what the anti-war Ron Paul fanboys think, is the true cause of our pending bankruptcy.
     
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    Nice try there. Ron Paul has talked about the failures of the social security ponzi scheme for decades, you know, while Rick Perry was backing Al Gore, making speeches about open borders, raising taxes, granting Dream Acts, taking bribes...the usual.

    Perry is quite simply lying!
     
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    I was unaware that Ron Paul supported SS.
     
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    Social Security is solvent through 2036. The problem is the Federal Government has been stealing money out of it for decades to spend on other crap, and leaving "IOU's" in the Social Security "lockbox".

    What's really a crime is that way that politicians talk like they want to screw people out of Social Security after working taxpayers were forced by law to pay into it and Medicare all their lives. Any political party that tries to pull crap like that is committing suicide... because Baby Boomers VOTE!

    Hey, we came up with hundreds of billions to save Wall Street, the financial broker crime syndicates, the Welfare State, and bail out the banks -- now they'd better come up with whatever is needed to rescue Social Security or there will be hell to pay in the next election....
     
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    Yep, Perry is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    The government hasn't been stealing money out of SS. SS invests its revenues in federal bonds. However, the interior debt is ridiculously serious. SS is not broke because the government has taken the money, it is broke because it has always been broken.

    They could have voted for politicians their entire lives that supported forcing them by law to pay into it. At any point, they could have changed there voting pattern, and they did not. Assuming that SS will be there for any given generation after a lifetime of taxing is a folly on their own part.

    The bailouts are a drop in the bucket compared to the unfunded liabilities we face due to the current entitlement programs.
     
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    Social security is robbing from the young to give money to the old.

    It's a pyramid scheme and only works if there's enough young people to pay the old people.

    But with all the Baby Boomers retiring soon the system will be out of balance.

    The generations after them do not have enough workers to keep the system afloat.
     
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    Ronald Reagan, 1983

    Perry disagrees with Reagan?
     
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    "It is always broken"? Even if that were true, how is that the fault of people who have been forced by law to pay into the system? Seems like it worked fairly well until the Bush/Obama circus came to town starting about ten years ago....

    And if SS revenues are invested in Treasury bonds, they are backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government in the same way that all other U.S. Treasury bonds are. So where's the rationale for screwing people out of the Social Security benefit they have worked all their lives for?

    Woulda, coulda, shoulda... hey, never forget that the whole Social Security System was a brain-fart of that great hyperliberal, Democrat "god", Frankie Roosevelt! Social Security was already cast in concrete before any of us were born! It never should have been created in the first place, but now that generations of taxpaying citizens have been forced by law to pay into it, some other clowns want to "change the deal"? They are committing political suicide if they do!

    Then cut the Welfare State! Cut Medicaid, not Medicare... don't you even see the difference? Medicaid is WELFARE, but Medicare is a benefit that people have been forced to pay into all their lives. I know I say that a lot, but some of you just don't get it! Same thing with all the other government hand-out crap -- separate what is WELFARE from what has been EARNED by payments demanded by the government from the taxpayers. There's a gigantic difference.

    If you remember nothing else, get this: there's strength in numbers, and Baby Boomers VOTE. We forced an end to the Vietnam War and the Nixon presidency -- we'll throw anybody who tries to screw us right out on their ass! Depend on it! :twisted:
     
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    Do you have a source, cause I need to see that....

    If its true, Perry is a George Soros Stooge.... Which would be why leftys want him to win the primary....

    Bachmann, Cain, Palin, or Gingrich Please.
     
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    Agree. Any discussions about the fate of Social Security must include the fact that people have been forced by good old Uncle Scam to pay into it all their lives. If you want to draw a line in the sand and say after this, for people born later, we will change how this Ponzi scheme is administered (hate to use that cliched term but it's so apt), then, great! It's about time, I'd say.

    But you can't force people to swim across an enormous lake, boats waiting on the other shore for you, and then halfway across, say, "Wait, we changed our minds...you are on your own now."
     
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    The American people are to blame for the failure of Social Security for not holding the politicians responsible, and continuing to vote for them when they were looking from the Social Security fund.
     
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    Nice try I guess. Do they really think that conservatives will care what they think. I suppose they think we will rethink our opinion of Perry if they declare him the winner.

    I can see the liberal horde running in circles pulling at their hair if any conservative said that Barry is a real citizen.
     

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