When will America be recognized as an Aristocracy?

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  1. CarlB

    CarlB New Member

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    It's pretty obvious to me and everyone else who has a shred of objectivity and intellect that the US is being pushing into Aristocracy. In fact in many areas I think it's there already. People like the Bush's, Romney's, Clinton's etc are pretty much guaranteed ease, prosperity and powerful positions for all their members whether they deserve it or not, while many people that used to be considered middle class are now trapped into lives of subservience and near poverty that they might never be able to escape from.

    When there is such a huge gap between the top and the bottom (and middle) in wealth and power it's only a matter of time before those elites use that wealth and power to completely corrupt and take over all institutions, positions and politicians. Many would say we've reached that point now. People in other countries realize this already, when will the American people wake up?
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Libertarians have recognized this for decades. The heart of the aristocracy is the central banking system and their government-enforced monopoly on money.
     
  3. signcutter

    signcutter New Member

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    I'm kinda leaning towards calling it a Plutocracy.. just as bad as aristocracy.. but powered by wealth instead of lineage or nobility

     
  4. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But, but, they are the sacred JOB CREATORS©.
    What would we do without their largesse?:omg:
    They help to create so many jobs- maids, chauffeurs, bodyguards, cocaine dealers, gardeners, bellhops...
    You must not be so ungrateful.
     
  5. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

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    So WTF do you want? The US Government to engage in a trade war with China and anyone else you feel is stealing your job?

    You can raise the marginal rate all the way to 91% and then you'll just see massive loopholes suddenly created in our already loophole ridden tax system and it'll do zero good whatsoever.

    How come the Democrats you think are fighting for you so hard, aren't fighting for a millionaires or billionaires tax?
     
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    wopper stopper New Member

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    the wealth gap was greater prior to the 1950s.

    Globalization has taken its toll on middle america.

    around here job growth is in one industry.

    Cleaning foreclosure properties.
     
  7. PatrickT

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    The definition of aristocracy, as it's being used here, is "a government by those considered to be the best and most able people of the state." That's the Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary.

    I realize the Democrats might consider the current administration to be, by that definition, an aristocracy but most Americans certainly don't. Instead of best and most able the thought of corrupt and least able comes to mind.

    Our founders realize that a government of the "best and most able" wasn't possible so they tried, with great success, to design a system that would survive the corrupt and least able. The liberals are trying desperately to eliminate that system so the corrupt and least able can pretend to be aristrocrats and rule forever. Hopefully, won't succeed.
     
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    The title of your post should have been.....I'm failing in life-let me play class warfare again" LMFAO! You need to include George Soros, John Kerry, Warren Buffer, Mr. Imlet and barack obama in on all future bash the rich tirades, just so we can get a complete picture as to who exactly we should be despising, which seems to be all of our presidents regardless of their political affiliations. :ignore:
     
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    never cause it is a corporatocracy we all know corporations trough lobbies and other dirty moves controll everything.
     
  10. PatrickT

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    Is the "we" you're referring to you and the lump in your pocket?
     
  11. Johnny-C

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    Grow as a nation, bee successful and stable (that's just a few).
     
  12. CarlB

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    How about end outsourcing or at least the tax break for it?
    How about raise taxes on the wealthy while keeping the tax breaks for the middle class?
    How about getting rid of outrageous tax loopholes?
    How about ending tax havens?

    There's a lot the government could do, and this administration has tried but the stupid republicans block everything that could help fix our nation.
     
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    The Aristocracy is not recognized because its very continuity relies on the illusion of its non-existence.
     
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    To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty
    Queen Elizabeth II


    In light of your immediate failure to financially manage yourselves and also in recent years your tendency to elect incompetent Presidents of the USA and therefore not able to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately.
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    Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas, which she does not fancy). Your new Prime Minister, David Cameron, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.
    Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated
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    12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the Australians (World dominators) first to take the sting out of their deliveries.
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    Would that really be so unreasonable? They seem to be willing to kill lots of and lots of people on behalf of the wealthier segments of our society. Would mere protectionism really be unjustified in a moral sense?

    I'm not saying that's really an option, for practical reasons. I don't think our current economic managers, private or public, are capable of a trade war with China. They lack the intelligence.

    But if they were capable of it, I don't think it would be at all unreasonable to ask. They're just not that good.
     
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    They don't want America to succed.
     
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    There's 'aristocracy' and then there's people with lots of money and social status. Not the same thing at all. Technically, because my father was a Baronet, I'm minor aristocracy as the title is hereditary, and my avatar shows my family's coat of arms. I'm still broke despite being 'posh'.
    Furthermore 'aristocracy' isn't the collective for describing a nation, but for a group within it; the aristocracy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nobility
     
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