Ron Paul's Voting Record

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  1. Monster Zero

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    Is Ron Paul really against big government?

    How "libertarian" and change oriented is he?


    The good, the bad and the ugly.

    * Voted NO on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jan 2007)

    * Voted NO on keeping moratorium on drilling for oil offshore. (Jun 2006)

    * Voted YES on scheduling permitting for new oil refinieries. (Jun 2006)

    * Voted NO on passage of the Bush Administration national energy policy. (Jun 2004)

    * Voted NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy. (Nov 2003)

    * Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels. (Aug 2001)

    * Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR. (Aug 2001)

    * Repeal the gas tax. (May 2001)

    * Voted NO on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. (Jun 2000)

    * Replace coal & oil with alternatives - strongly opposes . . .


    http://activote.ontheissues.org/AVA/Ron_Paul.htm

    http://911review.com/articles/bov/RonPaul_08.html

    These Ron Paul votes and views suggest what price will be paid:

    * Property rights are the foundation of all rights. (Sep 2007)

    * Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)

    * Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)

    * Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)

    * Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer

    * Voted NO on increasing AMTRAK funding by adding $214M to $900M. (Jun 2006)

    * Unlimited campaign contributions; with full disclosure. (Dec 2000)

    * Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)

    * Voted NO on granting Washington DC an Electoral vote & vote in Congress. (Apr 2007)

    * Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)

    * Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Jan 2007)

    * Voted NO on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Mar 2007)

    * Voted YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends. (Dec 2005)

    * Voted YES on eliminating the Estate Tax ("death tax"). (Apr 2001)

    * Voted NO on strengthening the Social Security Lockbox. (May 1999)

    * Voted YES on making the Bush tax cuts permanent. (Apr 2002)

    * Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)

    * 'Take marching orders from Constitution; not from al Qaeda.' (Sep 2007)

    * Present scientific facts that support creationism. (Sep 2007)

    * Tax-credited programs for Christian schooling. (Sep 2007)

    * Disallow lawsuits that stop public officials invoking God. (Sep 2007)

    * Socialized medicine won't work; nor managed care. (Oct 2007)

    * Oppose mandated health insurance and universal coverage. (Sep 2007)

    * Voted YES on continuing military recruitment on college campuses. (Feb 2005)

    * Voted YES on deploying SDI. (Mar 1999)

    * Allow young people to get out of the system. (Oct 2007)

    * Personal retirement accounts allow investing in one's future. (Sep 2007)

    * Federal government won't keep its entitlement promises. (Mar 2007)

    * Rated 30% by the ARA, indicating an anti-senior voting record. (Dec 2003)



     
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    He still has my vote above all others.
     
  4. Monster Zero

    Monster Zero Well-Known Member

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    I like what I see on the wars ...




    http://activote.ontheissues.org/AVA/Ron_Paul.htm

    Iraq

    Voting Record

    Voted for going after Al Qaeda, not invading Iraq. (Feb 2008

    Voted against war because Iraq was not a national threat. (May 2007)

    Voted YES on investigating Bush impeachment for lying about Iraq. (Jun 2008

    Voted YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)

    Voted NO on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)

    Voted NO on approving removal of Saddam & valiant service of US troops. (Mar 2004)

    Voted NO on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)

    Voted YES on disallowing the invasion of Kosovo. (May 1999)

    national security ...


    Military aggressiveness weakens our national defense. (May 2007)

    Be cautious about warrantless searches & habeas corpus. (May 2007)

    Criticizes use of war on terror to curtail civil liberties. (Jan 2007)

    Opposes Patriot Act & Iraq War. (Jan 2007)

    Jihadists attack because we have bases in their countries. (Jan 2006)

    We’d be as furious as Muslims are, if our land was occupied. (Jan 2006)

    Grouping terrorists together damages relations with Muslims. (Jan 2006)

    We can’t fight for freedom if we impose Patriot Act. (Sep 2005)
     
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    If Ron Paul had been the Prez instead of Clinton from 92-00...I think the twin towers would still be there (not that I am blaming Clinton any more then any other POTUS for 9/11).
     
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    Puff Puff ..and more Puff..

    You are entitled to your opinion of course.
    But you have NO idea how a Paul presidency would look like ..NONE ZERO.

    Now we know what an Obama presidency looks like..far different from his campaign speeches.
    WE know Getmo is still open.
    Wiretaps still going..
    another war ..added..
    higher unemployment.lower wages..higher fuel cost.

    We know nothing of what A Paul government would be like other that position speeches..throwing rocks at every politician he can see.

    It might be worst.
     
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    And neither do you...NONE ZERO (because no one can know what the future holds).

    And I will probably remind you that you said that the next time you tell us all what Ron Paul would mean were he Prez.

    Because you have NO IDEA...NONE, ZERO.


    Have a nice day.
     
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    Is most of this stuff supposed to bad? I guess letting someone opt out of Social Security is an evil, terrible thing?
     
  9. Monster Zero

    Monster Zero Well-Known Member

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    We realize no one is perfect but ...:omg:



    • Abortion is murder. (Apr 2008

      Roe v. Wade decision was harmful to the Constitution. (Apr 2008

      Define life at conception in law, as scientific statement. (Feb 2008

      Protecting the life of the unborn is protecting liberty. (Feb 2008

      Get the federal government out of abortion decision. (Nov 2007)

      Delivered 4000 babies; & assuredly life begins at conception. (Sep 2007)

      Save “snowflake babies”: no experiments on frozen embryos. (Sep 2007)

      No tax funding for organizations that promote abortion. (Sep 2007)

      Embryonic stem cell programs not constitionally authorized. (May 2007)

      Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)

      Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)

    http://activote.ontheissues.org/AVA/Ron_Paul.htm
     
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    Me too... !!
     
  11. Lady Luna

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    It looked good to me, too. No politician is ever going to be 100% in alignment with another person's views, but Ron Paul comes pretty darn close to mine.:)
     
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    So delivering babies and being against abortions is the reason to elect someone?

    Meanwhile saying that killing a terrorist with a missile is assignation and without due process?

    Game over.
     
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    Fixed it for you.
     
  14. Lady Luna

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    No. Being against runaway spending and an enormous central government that has illegally usurped power it isn't entitled to are good reasons. Opposing the corrupt Federal Reserve which is being used as an agent to bleed off our country's wealth is a good reason. The reasons you cited pale in comparison.

    Yes. Since the MSM has become the propaganda arm of the oligarchy, we don't know anymore than what we are told to believe - about this asassination and other events. I won't blindly cheer for our side when our side is invading other countries and killing people. Our side needs to be defending our own porous borders.
     
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    Right.

    9-11 was a inside job.
    The moon landing was fake..
    We dont know what to believe in any more...but lets believe in a clown who voted against the patriot act..says terrorist deserve due process of law..
    drone strikes are un constitutional..
    But do not listen to the terrorist who say wipe Israel off the map..make war upon The infidels in America...and kill women and children in Africa.

    Its better to listen to a old man without economic training or leadership ability teach us financial security.
    While terrorist invade America while we smoke cheap dope.

    Thanks but no thanks.Your guy just ended his political ambitions..You might move to Cuba.
     
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    Thanks..but it made no difference..actually made it easier for me to convict him on treason. :sun: :) :winner:
     
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    Don't you realize that due process of law is the only way you can legally demonstrate that someone is guilty of terrorism in the first place?
     
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    Please do so... It would be a lot better if Criminals were actually brought to courts for their crimes instead of assassinating them.
     
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    A terrorist is not a criminal.
    The Paul explanation is a joke.

    Treason is not criminal in military applications. :gun: -------- Dead terrorist.


    Paul is dangerous..
     
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    Not telling the whole story is lying..
     
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    Yes, it is. Why was McVeigh tried and sentenced?

    And if this is about war, why aren't they following the laws of war, like declaring it and like the Geneva Convention standard that war is between states and armed members of all parties in the war must be treated as prisoners of war rather than illegal combatants.

    They insist on calling it a war to justify throwing out criminal due process, but they won't follow the established laws of war either.

    Basically, it seems like they pick and choose their standards based on whatever gives the president something most closely akin to absolute power. The vast, unparalled, unaccountable power that the presidency has taken for itself is the issue here, a level of power no human being should ever possess for any reason whatsoever.
     
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    Gee..I dunno..For political reasons ?

    Why dont you ask the terrorist about the Geneva rules ?
    The ones with unaccountable power are the bad guys..
    and they dont foster your belief system..and I choose not to accept theirs.

    Or Pauls.
     
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    So it would have been okay for the government to just summarily assassinate McVeigh. What about Charles Manson?

    Criminals never obey the law. That's precisely why they are criminals and precisely why I don't want the president to be a criminal like them.
     
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    why do 9/11 Truthers cling to this guy ...?

    Ron Paul , did he say was for re-opening a new 9-11 investigation?

    from:
    http://911review.com/articles/bov/RonPaul_08.html

    __________________________________________________ _____________________________

    But it was Glenn Beck, in December of 2007, another right-wing Libertarian bent on exposing or destroying the "dangerous" and "violent" 9/11 Truth Movement, finally exposed the bottom line for the truth of 9/11 for Ron Paul, leaving his supporters doing somersaults to try to clean up the mess:
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    BECK: . . . But may I just run through these 9/11 conspiracies? No plane hit the Pentagon on September 11th. Instead, it was a missile fired by elements from inside the American state apparatus. Yes or no?
    PAUL: It`s preposterous.
    BECK: OK. The planes that hit the World Trade Center towers were remotely controlled?
    PAUL: I mean, this is just bizarre.
    BECK: OK.
    PAUL: I`ve not even heard of these challenges before.
    BECK: Is there -- is there any evidence or is there any doubt in your mind that the United States government was not involved in the September 11th attacks? That we did not bring down World Trade Center number seven?
    PAUL: Well, yes, I absolutely believe that is true. They did not. But the connection may be, and where some people get carried away, is if you dig through those $40 billion worth of intelligence-gathering apparatus that we had before 9/11, you know, we dig up information and there was some ineptness. And sometimes when you find ineptness in government, it`s easy to make this giant leap over into conspiracy, and they do it on purpose. But, you know, we had an FBI agent on 70 different occasions reported that these individuals were flying airplanes and not learning how to land them. And he was totally ignored.
    BECK: Right.
    PAUL: I consider this ineptness on government, not a conspiracy that, oh, yes, we know about it, we can`t wait until the towers come down. No, I don`t believe that at all. I think -- I don`t even think I should have to answer questions like that.

    Transcript: Honest Questions with Ron Paul
    Glenn Beck, Aired December 18, 2007,

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0712/18/gb.01.html
     

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