Iran - WORLD Iranian Pastor Faces Execution for Refusing to Recant Christian Faith R

International pressure got the hikers freed; theirs was a fashionable cause in the mainstream press and among prominent left-wing figures. Would Hugo Chavez, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Cindy Sheehan, Noam Chomsky, and Sean Penn care to stand up for Yousef Nadarkhani's human rights? Most likely not because they have a very small mind when it comes to Human rights, where it only applies to Muslims, left wing thugs and dubious figures.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/27/christian-pastor-yousef-nadarkhani-faces-potential-execution/

 

You people who say Christians aren't prosecuted in Iran lie.

It's not just him.

(*)(*)(*)(*) Islamist and their extremist intolerant faith.

 

There are not any homosexuals or christians in Iran because they are dead. The peaceful and tolerant religion of Islam sucks!

 

does this surprise anyone? they are almost out of Jews in Iran so they need someone else to throw their religion at as a reason to kill.

 

When the countries that are run by Islam are so backwards its much more representative to say Islam is backwards. The watered down islam in the west is constantly trying to be influenced by the true islam of the Mid East. Im starting to wonder if the islamic belief isnt actually some form of satanism... I think the Quran says Satan loved God the most of all the angels and it was his great love that forced his inability to serve man and be cast down. Jesus did meet Satan in the desert so if you believe all this stuff perhaps the origins of islam do justify its ever present evils!

 

um not to try and turn this into Bible study or anything but Satan/Lucifer was the most loved Angel by God before he was cast into hell. the story you speak is actually true and has nothing to do with satanism. Lucifer was an angel, but he hated the humans and became jealous of Gods love for them basically. so he defied God in the end, tried to rise up against him with other angels and got (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ed slapped by the Great One lol. so he was sent to hell.

just sayin.

 

The idea that in some countries it is a capital offense for a Muslim to convert to another faith is completely whacked. There's no excuse for it.

It is not, however, integral to Islam. Indeed, most Muslims like to quote the line from the Quran that says "there is no compulsion in religion."

It is true that in the past, there was conversion by the sword. But it happened in Christianity, too. Which religion is the more tolerant in that regard has seesawed back and forth over the centuries.

These days, it tends to be a cultural thing. Places that are culturally atavistic in other ways are atavistic in this way, too.

The one exception I can think of is Malaysia: a generally moderate and tolerant nation where it is against the law for a Muslim to convert. But that's a bit of a special case: a country more or less evenly divided ethnically and religiously, so its laws are less about principle and more about power sharing and getting along. Thus their version of the rule is relatively tolerant: it is illegal for a Muslim to convert, but not fatal. Such conversions are simply not officially recognized.

Doesn't make it right. Just pointing out that such rules are cultural, not built into the religion.

 

It's called 'apostasy' and it's not 'recommended' for muslims:


Apostasy in Islam (Arabic: ارتداد, irtidād or ridda&#8206 is commonly defined in Islam as the rejection in word or deed of one's former religion (apostasy) by a person who was previously a follower of Islam. The Qur'an itself does not prescribe any earthly punishment for apostasy, but the Hadiths do. According to the four mainstream schools of Islamic law (sharia), its punishment is execution

Under traditional Islamic law[56] an apostate may be given up to three days while in incarceration to repent and accept Islam again and if not the apostate is to be killed without any reservations

The violence or threats of violence against apostates in the Muslim world usually derives not from government authorities but from individuals or groups operating with impunity from the government...A survey conducted by the Pew Research Center found relatively widespread popular support for death penalty as a punishment for apostasy in Egypt (84% of respondents in favor of death penalty), Jordan (86% in favor), Indonesia (30% in favor), Pakistan (76% favor) and Nigeria (51% in favor).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

 

A precious stone in the hand. For fear of losing it it is squeezed unto crumbling until all that is left is dust.
These examples show me that some things naturally destroy themselves.

 

Islam is quite widely persecuted in the US too.

 

We, the West keep them in this state, they don't get a fair deal and we do it to keep our hegemony and access to the oil.

Secondly, it seems to me that the tea party would like to take the US back several hundred years. Just listen to the rhetoric about "progressives" - like progress is a bad thing.

 

We have so many posters here claiming that Iran is the beacon of freedom to practise religion, what, with the huge jewish population there (the biggest in arab countries they say with pride!)

So it is great to be a jew there but sucks to be a christian?

 

Even your source notes that the Quran does not call for any sort of punishment.

The Quran is a more authoritative source than the Hadiths.

It is current practice in some countries to kill Muslims who seek to convert. That is disgusting and indefensible. But as I noted, and you have not refuted, it is not required by Islam.

 

Welcome to Islamic cooperation and understanding.

 

very much indeed to the point that Muslims are allowed to build mosque, spread their lies, riot in playground, demonstrate against the government....a very clear sign just how islam is such an evil religion that should be banned in the USA!

So now I hope that Muslims especially here in the West will finally wake up and see what Islam really is and that they should move away from it no more excuses.

 

Granny says dem Mooslamics is just a buncha head-choppin' extremists...

White House Calls for Release of Iranian Pastor Facing Execution for ‘Apostasy’
September 29, 2011 Washington (CNSNews.com) – The White House called on Iran Thursday to release a Christian pastor facing possible execution after refusing to renounce his faith. Christian organizations, human rights groups and governments fear that Youcef Nadarkhani may hanged in a matter of days.

 

IRAN IS NOT THE U.S.
Their laws may seem harsh to us. But they are a sovereign nation. Are the people here so stoopid they don't know what sovereign means? In plain and simple terms, it means we have to stay out of their freaking bidness. Why do you think 9/11 happened in the first place? That's right, this country wants to force our way of living on the rest of the world.

 

Got any news reports of Islamics being stoned to death or beheaded by Christians?

 

You are wrong. It is built into the evil barbaric book of oppressive government.

 

Hogwash

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver
Because the British, with our help (I know we didn't really help), created Israel.

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we have something to do preventing Muslims from forcing Sharia law down the throats of those in Somalia and Chechnya.

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we have the nerve to buy their oil. Shame on us.

and his ultimatum what do we have to do to be at peace with muslims.

(*)(*)(*)(*) our christian beliefs we have to become Muslim.
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ie. they want a little bit more than us leaving them alone.

 

Wow. Persuasive. Cogently argued.

 

I call bulls**t, Leffe. There is no persecution of Islam in the United States. People are free to convert to the Muslim faith and they are free to practice it. No one is confiscating Korans as Bibles are confiscated in many Islamic countries. No one is forbidden to proselytize the Islamic faith as it is forbidden in most Islamic countries to proselytize any faith but Islam. No one is killing people for the 'capital crime' of converting to Islam.

 

We know what sovreign means. We also know what evil means and it is evil to kill someone because they will not convert to a particular religion. I wonder if you are as okay with female genital mutilation. I wonder if you are as okay about the rise of Neo-Nazism in parts of Europe.

It seems that some people are so stupid they don't know what killing someone because they don't want to convert to Islam means.

 

Yes because we kill Muslims for just being Muslim. How many apostasy laws does the US have?

 

People taking this as an opportunity to bash Islam are fools...

Firstly, there is no verse in the Quran giving us permission to kill anybody for apostasy. Secondly, there is a verse clearly stating it is wrong to force somebody to become a Muslim. You cannot force a person to convert to Islam. You cannot force somebody to believe the Shahada, and you can't be a Muslim unless you recite and veleive it.

So, this has nothing to do with Islam.

And don't try and throw Hadiths at me. First, the Hadith is not as important as the Quran. Secondly, the Hadith on this topic is not completely accurate.

Bottom line, it's not encouraged in Islam to force Islam upon none Muslims.

This is all Iran, and no Islam.

Salam