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    Quote Originally Posted by Beevee View Post
    Why ever would he do that? What have they done for him?
    It's not "what have they done for him", but "what they will do for him?" He wants to create millions of democratic voters with the swipe of a pen.
    "Progressives are the architects of American decline, and progressivism is the ideology of American suicide." - Dinesh D'Souza

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    Granny says tell `em don't let the screen door hit `em onna butt onna way out, an' take dat loud-ass bass-boostin' drug-dealin' mariachi music with `em...

    Immigration from Mexico in fast retreat, data show
    November 15, 2011 - Census figures show that fewer people are leaving and many are returning as a lack of jobs in the U.S. and tighter border enforcement dissuade many who might have entered illegally.
    North of the U.S.-Mexico border, Republican presidential candidates are talking tough on illegal immigration, with one proposing — perhaps in jest — an electrified fence to deter migrants. But data from both sides of the border suggest that illegal immigration from Mexico is already in fast retreat, as U.S. job shortages, tighter border enforcement and the frightening presence of criminal gangs on the Mexican side dissuade many from making the trip. Mexican census figures show that fewer Mexicans are setting out and many are returning — leaving net migration at close to zero, Mexican officials say. Arrests by the U.S. Border Patrol along the southwestern frontier, a common gauge of how many people try to cross without papers, tumbled to 304,755 during the 11 months ended in August, extending a nearly steady drop since a peak of 1.6 million in 2000.

    The scale of the fall has prompted some to suggest that a decades-long migration boom may be ending, even as others argue that the decline is only momentary. "Our country is not experiencing the population loss due to migration that was seen for nearly 50 years," Rene Zenteno, a deputy Mexico interior secretary for migration matters, has said. Douglas Massey, an immigration scholar at Princeton University, said surveys of residents in Mexican migrant towns he has studied for many years found that the number of people making their first trip north had dwindled to near zero. "We are at a new point in the history of migration between Mexico and the United States," Massey said in a Mexico City news conference in August hosted by Zenteno.

    Experts in Mexico say the trend is primarily economic. Long-standing back-and-forth migration has been thrown off as the U.S. downturn dried up jobs — in construction and restaurants, for example — that once drew legions of Mexican workers. About 12.5 million Mexican immigrants live in the United States, slightly more than half without papers, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. These days, Mexicans in the United States have discouraging words for loved ones about prospects for work up north. U.S. contractors who used to recruit in Mexico likewise have little to offer. "What stimulates migration is the need for workers," said Genoveva Roldan, a scholar at the National Autonomous University of Mexico. "Right now, the migrant networks are functioning to say, 'Don't come — there's no work.' "

    Juan Carlos Calleros, a researcher at Mexico's National Migration Institute, said the agency's surveys have found that a large share of Mexican migrants coming home on their own or sent back by the Border Patrol had spent just a month or two on U.S. soil and returned because they had no work. Alongside the bleak jobs picture is a trek that has grown riskier and more expensive because of stepped-up enforcement on the U.S. side, a crackdown that at the same time has prompted many migrants to stay in the United States rather than try to cross back and forth. Migrants also cite an increasingly hostile political climate north of the border, as expressed in state laws targeting undocumented immigrants.

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    So here is my suggestion: Forget bombs -- we should drop Obama administration policy makers on Iraq and Syria. That would ensure the ruin of the Islamic State in no time!

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    That is like the government saying they have "reduced the deficit".

    Illegals are still invading! Yes, the problem is getting worse at a slower rate, but it is still getting worse! And what is being done to work on the problem that has already developed? Nothing.

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    Granny says looks like dem Arizona an' Alabamer immigration laws startin' to have an' effect...

    Illegal immigration across US-Mexico border hits historic low
    December 14, 2011 - As illegal immigration rates go down and the National Guard's deployment costs rack up, the Obama administration prepares to cut the Guard's presence along the US-Mexico border.
    It's a classic chicken-or-the-egg question. Has the presence of the National Guard contributed to historic lows of illegal immigrants trying to sneak into the US from Mexico? Or do the historic lows mean that billions spent on enforcement is a waste of money?

    Today the Monitor looked at how the arrests of immigrants along the border are at their lowest level since 1972, according to US immigration officials. The numbers of those arrested in fiscal year 2011, which ended on Sept. 30, stood at 327,577, compared to 1.6 million back in 2000. This comes after the National Guard was deployed to the border, first under former President George W. Bush, and continued under President Obama.

    The Washington Post recently looked at the results of the National Guard being sent to the border. As the paper calculates: “The 1,200 National Guard troops have helped Border Patrol agents apprehend 25,514 illegal immigrants at a cost of $160 million — or $6,271 for each person caught.”

    Now, the Obama administration is preparing to cut down their presence, as reported by the Houston Chronicle. Relying less on manpower, the future mission will depend more on aerial surveillance and other measures. The details are to be announced later this month, but they are apparently precisely in response to fewer immigrants attempting to cross the border illegally.

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    So here is my suggestion: Forget bombs -- we should drop Obama administration policy makers on Iraq and Syria. That would ensure the ruin of the Islamic State in no time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltky View Post
    Granny says looks like dem Arizona an' Alabamer immigration laws startin' to have an' effect...

    Illegal immigration across US-Mexico border hits historic low
    December 14, 2011 - As illegal immigration rates go down and the National Guard's deployment costs rack up, the Obama administration prepares to cut the Guard's presence along the US-Mexico border.
    Funny how immigration laws, when they are enforced, actually work. Obama should take note.
    "Progressives are the architects of American decline, and progressivism is the ideology of American suicide." - Dinesh D'Souza


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Luna View Post
    That's a start, but just a drop in the bucket since there are 10 million or so more to go...

    So get busy, ICE!
    So all 10 million are guilty of "manslaughter, attempted murder, kidnapping, armed robbery, drug trafficking, child abuse, sexual crimes against minors, and aggravated assault"? Sure, most of them probably jumped the border, but do they deserved to be lumped with the aforementioned felons? Next time you see a Mexican perhaps you will jump at the phone and dial 9-11 then?
    Last edited by Slant Eyed Pirate; Jan 04 2012 at 12:14 PM.

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