The Holocaust is the jews Bailiwick....

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  1. Libhater

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    Much of the power seen today with American zionists comes from their pitiful display of ad nauseam symbolic reminders of the mid-20th century holocaust over in Germany and Poland. The more guilt and the more sympathy today's jews can glean from the uninformed American populace with their holocaust museums and constant reminders of how horrible the fate was of their people--then the more duped people become by giving money to their latest scams.

    Just to put the incredible lack of knowledge of the zionist intentions into perspective, I will give you an event of graver proportions to use as an example of how ridiculous it is to see Americans kowtow to the sympathetic pleas of of these jooish charlatans.

    Actual recorded deaths of the Nazi holocaust are much less than the 6 million figure you see zionists bandy about. Regardless of the 6 milion or less figure, that pales in the number of Christians who were slaughtered by a cast of Bolsheviks led by over 300 jooish zionists during the Russian Revolution, where the number ranges anywhere between 30-80 million deaths. Both carnages of varying scales came about during the same 20th century. Why is it we don't see any of our Christian clergy making a spectacle of that dastardly act by those jooish zionists? Why is it our Christian clergy have a little more integrity and finesse than do those zionists? Christians don't erect museums and create movies like Shindler's List in order to get sympathy. Christians aren't out to make an almighty 'buck' on horrible events of the past.
     
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    Obviously the history of the holocaust has been exploited and manipulated for political and ideological use in the public schools and televission networks.

    Yes, the holocaust was bad. But there are two sides to every story, and there were countless other atrocities going on around that time. We almost never hear about the other "holocausts" comitted by the Japanese against whites in southeast asia, or the communist purges and intentional famines that resulted in the deaths of far many more people than the number of jews that died. Indeed, hundreds of thousands of jews were complicit in perpetrating the soviet purges, in which there were often clear ethnic undertones. After the first world war, the Armenian holocaust resulted in the deaths of around 1.5 million Christians at the hands of a muslim democracy, yet most Americans have never even heard of it.
     
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    Great points for us to ponder Anders, and these atrocities are or should be reminders to the liberals of today when they make such a big stink of our own servicemen killing a few Iraqi *******s in a war setting, or of them unfortunately killing a few innocent civilians during the process. Priorities are the key here, a deeper love of Christians and a thourough understanding of wars in a historical perspective would also help.
     
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    Yes, the holocaust was bad and unpleasant. But for the most part, it was hardly inhumane. Nothing near as bad as many holocaust museums would have you believe. You might want to upload and save this video, before youtube censors it like it has so many others:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8UmMuRSSw&feature=related"]Holocaust Survivors who Tell the Truth - YouTube[/ame]

    To give fair representation to the other side, you might whatch this early allied propaganda video:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w0ODV-eFms&feature=related"]concentration camp footage 3/6 - YouTube[/ame]

    Obviously the allegations are completely absurd, and the viewers are led by the narrarator to interrpret the video. Try an experiment. First turn off the volume. Then watch the images in the video. Pretend you are watching pictures from Ethiopia or Somalia, not the holocaust. Look objectively at the pictures without any prejudice. Only after you do this, rewatch the video with sound. See how much more horrific and gruesome it becomes?

    Yes, many of the jews in the camp were starving. The germans simply did not have enough food in the final months of the war. Then as the russians invaded, the germans fled, leaving the jews without food. Where were the jews going to go? Most germans during that time were not eating much better. Cabbage soup boiled with a bone, and a small piece of bread was the commonplace meal. One British prisoner of war remarked that the food in the prisons was essentially the same meager portions that he ate at home.

    I am by no means saying that all the bad things of the holocaust were made up, but there are countless jewish camp survivors that made up wild baseless stories in an attempt to gain some sort of retribution against the germans for being sent to the camps. No one dares question whether all the allegations are really true.

    Carefully consider everything asserted in that army video. Torture with thumscrews? Some of the alleged tortue is just so completely strange and cruel you really have to question if it could be true. Why would the germans torture the jews with cigarettes for no reason? If they merely wanted to kill off all the jews, why the torture? No, it is clearly a propaganda film. The army and government misled Americans. Lies and deceit from government were once even more common than they are today, especially during war time. Remember the American presidents assertion that Saddam Hussein had mobile chemical weapons laboritories? They even made detailed computer simulations of what such labs looked like. And pictures of Iraq's chemical weapons before the Gulf war were shown again and again on televission screens leading up to the later Iraq "liberation". The public was manipulated. Now, remember that the holocaust was before the internet and digital cameras. So much easier to fabricate stories and perpetuate lies back then.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs4MxB18NHE&feature=related"]The Bush Administration's 935 LIES about Iraq war-1/2 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    9 million jews in Europe at the time of world war 2
    3 million died in Russia
    6 million died at the hands of Germans
    9 million survived to tell the story of it....
    Jewish math really sucks.
     
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    Another fact that is rarely mentioned is that most the jews in Germany had immigrated from Russia in the previous two decades. Basically, Russia under the tsar forcibly deported the Jews.

    So the Jews in Germany were mostly, in many ways, Russian Jews. With this in mind, it is no wonder that the germans put the relatively recent arrivals into prison camps at the first signs of hostility with Russia. Indeed, the Russian Revolution was seen by many as a Jewish Revolution (although this would be a drastic oversimplification). The USA also deported its Japanese population on the West coast into prison camps during the second world war, because there were so many spies and potential saboteurs among them, fanatically loyal to the Japanese Emperor.

    Consider that the New York Times reported, in 1921 (before the rise of the nazis), that Russia's "6,000,000 jews" were "facing extermination by massacre".
    http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2009/08/6-million-jews-holocausted-in-russia-in.html

    Those "six million jews" went to germany!

    The very word that is used to refer to the imprisonment itself, "The Holocaust", is itself inherently biased. As if the jews have a monopoly on human suffering. Why does the Holocaust, which supposedly happened 65 years ago in germany, get so much attention today while the recent genocides in Ruwanda and the Sudan got relatively little media coverage? The jewish influenced media keeps churning out ever more Holocaust propaganda videos, even in recent times. They will not let us forget what happened to them. Obviously it is not really about human suffering, but rather it is a matter of jewish persecution.
     
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    Libhater: "Christians aren't out to make an almighty 'buck' on horrible events of the past." Nah, that's why I never heard about all the poor Christians being fed to the lions. That's why I never heard of Christians suffering for their faith at the hands of the godless communist. Since they're not greedy Jews, Chrisitan churches absolutely refuse to make a buck off anything.

    Of course, for the anti-semites, anything the Jews do is unique to the Jews and deserved. And, of course, there is absolutely nothing about having thousands line up in a pit to be shot that would be called inhumane if they're only Jews.

    I explained to my children that holocausts are a common event. Always have been. The Holocaust refers to one particular holocaust. My son didn't believe me at the time but then he had a conversation with a very nice professional man in Turkay who explained that slaughtering Kurds wasn't an issue because the scientists had proven Kurds aren't really human. Some things never change.

    Of course, since many involved in the Holocaust were Christians I would expect them to be desperate to downplay the whole thing.
     
  8. Anders Hoveland

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    Over 100,000 people of jewish descent served in the nazi army.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfEJrzWssqg"]Jews Who Served In Hitlers Army ( Here Are Some Of Their Names ) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Great Anders. Do you have a source for the video?

    The adminsitrator and guards at Nazi concentration camps were all white europeans. What does that imply? For me, nothing. But, it must be very, very significant to you.
     
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    "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (book)
    Bryan Mark Rigg

    "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers" (documentary video)
    Larry Price (who lives in Jerusalem)
    interviews with five germans of partial jewish ancestry who served in the German armed forces during World War II
     
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    Have you ever wondered why the American media is so critical of Hugo Chávez (president in Venezuala) and Vladimir Putin (prime minister in Russia)?

    Hugo Chávez, in January 2006, stated that “the world is for all of us, then, but it so happens that a minority, the descendants of the same ones that crucified Christ, the descendants of the same ones that kicked Bolívar out of here and also crucified him in their own way over there in Santa Marta, in Colombia. A minority has taken possession all of the wealth of the world...”

    In Russia, despite making up only a tiny fraction of the population, jews are very influential in the country's politics and economy. Putin does not seem to be specifically antagonistic towards jews, but ambitious jews happen to frequently stand in the way of his political ambitions, and he has played off the popular anti-jewish sentiment in the country against the oligarchs, so conflict has been inevitible. 3 of the 4 billionaires in the Ukraine are Jewish (Victor Pinchuk, Igor Kolomoysky, Hennadi Boholyubov) despite the fact that Jews make up approximately only 0.5 percent of Ukraine’s population. Millions of russians live in desperate poverty in that country. There are plenty of online pictures of blonde little Ukrainian girls sleeping in the gutters. Many of them are abducted off the streets and sold into sexual slavery. (update: ukraine now has 7 billionaires as of this writing- yet another person of jewish ethnicity has been added to the list)

    Financial Dominance and Influence in Politics
    It is no secret that jews are very influential in politics. Even Aftenposten, Norway's main newspaper, ran a headline "Rike jøder truer Obama“ (Rich Jews threaten Obama) about how the jews threatened to withdraw their financial support for his campaign if he did not give more money to Israel and change his peace plan for the middle east. Aftenposten is a very respectable media source, and the norwegians are far more racially tolerant than even America.
    What reason would the norwegians have for being anti-semetic? They barely have any jews in their country, and they give very generous welfare benefits to all the poor muslim immigrants. To all you liberals reading this, how do you think there will ever be peace between Israel and the Palestinians if the american jews try to stop the president from pushing a fair peace plan?

    It is well known that Goldman-Sachs was founded, and continues to be run by Jews. It is estimated that nealry 40% of their upper level employees are Jewish. Goldman-Sachs was one of the only investment banks to greatly profit as the mortgage bubble burst. Despite large profits, Goldman-Sachs recieved $4.3 billion from the US government in a bailout, then sent the tax money to 32 separate corparate entities, including many overseas banks, hedge funds and pensions. There is also the very unsettling cooincidence that five out of the twelve members on the Federal Reserve Bank board are Jewish. If all the different races in the USA had an equal chance of being on the board, there would only be a 1 in 326,128 chance of all five members ending up jewish. The five members of the reserve currently are Ben S. Bernanke (Chairman), Donald L. Kohn (Vice Chairman), Kevin M. Warsh, Randall S. Kroszner, and Frederic S. Mishkin.

    Double Standard
    Why do Jewish groups in the USA encourage minority immigration to the US, and discourage it in Israel? I have been doing much reading, and it seems there is a double standard - as if only Israel can be ethnic nationalist and homogenous, but the USA must be multicultural - does not make sense

    The Jews talk of distilling in their children a pride of the jewish race, and support for the jewish nation. They also make no secret that they want their children to marry other jews.

    What if I talked of distilling in my children a pride of the white race, and support for Europe? What if I talk about 'awareness' of the white race and our peoples achievements?

    "The Chabad Center is dedicated to providing the joys of Judaism to the entire Jewish community and strengthening Jewish awareness, pride and continuity for our present and future generations."
    http://jewishidentity.tripod.com/page1.html

    Jewish professor, Noel Ignatiev, has established a Journal at Harvard that calls for the "abolition" of the white race.

    Jewish influence has taken over the schools, and effectively controls the televission programs. Any person or organization deemed "anti-semetic" is criticized in classrooms and TV, and black-listed from appearance in the media. Jewish influence has gone so far that being labled a "racist" can ruin careers, especially in the film industry, academia, or government.

    American taxpayers paying Israel billions
    because of jewish influence in american politics, taxpayers in the USA send over a billion dollars to fund Israel's military each year.
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/cost_of_israel.html

    Consider this: Israel has so much money that they can afford to send spies to monitor muslim immigrants in Denmark!
    http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/03/12/politiken-newspaper-editor-was-israeli-spy/

    Apparently the USA is even paying for Israel to spy on them too!
    Israeli diplomat Naor Gilon, head of the political department at the Israeli Embassy in Washington, has been accused. The FBI was monitoring a meeting between an Israeli Embassy official and a representative of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the main Israeli lobbying group in Washington. At one point, Franklin joined the two. U.S. intelligence officials, said that Franklin on one occasion allegedly tried to hand over a classified U.S. policy document on Iran, but that the Israeli diplomat refused to take it. Israeli sources said that Gilon did not take documents from Franklin, but had frequent meetings with him.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/27/eveningnews/main639143.shtml


    The jewish people as a whole should not be hated, but we should definitely be concerned about a small, but very powerful and influential, number of them.
     
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    I'll go you one better -- it's not even the first Holocaust. There are a few mentioned in the Bible. One attempted in the book of Ruth (the origin of Purim) and the other was recorded in the apocraphal book of Tobit. There's also a record of pretty grusome torture in a psuedopigraphic book of 4 Maccabees. It's a cultural thing I think.
     
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    the jews are a minority in the world so proportionally the millions that were killed affected the group as a whole

    also since it happened recently they can play the religion card the same as other races play the race card
     
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    I agree. For example, Russia has a loss of 27 million during this war. Are there any museums all over US and the world? Do we claims ourselves for special protected status, payouts, etc as Jewish people do? No.

    In US, due to massive propaganda Russian = mafia and communism.
    The great majority of the immigrants to US & Germany, starting from 1988 were Jews. So, from whom is this mafia made from?! Germany also complains about "Russian mafia".

    Also, whole world is dealing now with Communist China. Right?
    And who invented the communism? Marx was a German jew as well as many other Russian Jews, who killed all our Tzar Nicolas II family, like Trotsky.

    Read this:
    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/HOLOCAUST-REPARATIONS-RIP-OFF--106967768.html
    Russian Jews did this scam. Warning: If you criticize them for this, you will be called "antisemit".
     
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    I also want to add, that unlike Jews, we didn't hunt down the Nazi Generals, including concentration camp guards, etc for loss of 27 mln. Simply, because this will not bring these people back and revenge is kinda an animal-like instinct. We are noble people, don't want to ashame ourselves and we know how to forgive. This is what actually makes you noble - ability to forgive.
     
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    They got into our system after Communist October Revolution in 1917. They are successful due to their own nationalism, like Jew always a brother to another Jew. The Jewish propaganda says, like "Jews are clever and Russian are angry at them, because they are jealous for their success". If Russian people do that, they call it "fascism, Nazism, antisemitism, etc." So, Russian and any other white nation can't do that, due to massive brainwashing.
    At least Putin was strong enough to kick out some of them. And Russian National movements are on the rise. We definitely should liberate Russia from them. They have now their own country - Israel to rob.
    I would be glad if he would get rid of Abramovish, Freedman and Vekselberg!
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=322_1218476449&p=1
     
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    If you think all the "anti-semetism" is only coming from racist whites and muslims, you might read this article, written by a hispanic mexican:

    http://www.aztlan.net/blowup.htm

    Why did Americans hear nothing about this in their media?
     
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    There's a difference between fighting a brutal war and ending up with casualties because of bombings, invasions, etc. on one hand, and systematically, efficiently, and coldly utilizing your military industrial complex to purposely wipe out an entire ethnic group on the other.
     
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    So, Jews couldn't fight for themselves??? Yep. I think they can just cowardly hide behind somebodies back, like they did behind the brave Russian solder.
    Die like a coward or die like a brave warier in a battle! Russians preferred the last.
    So, don't diminish the deaths of 27 million Russians, just because they died in a battle.
     
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    Interesting fact, the brave nation which lost in a battle 27 mln and saved the Jews(!) gets nothing, but the one, which lost presumably 6 mln, who couldn't take firearms and stand for themselves gets all kinds of compensations and has museums all over the world!
    Guess, who is ruling the world now? Where is a fairness?
     
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    If more Russians had emigrated to America, I have no doubt western history books would be telling a very different story about the jews. Russians have a long, and not completely frictionless, experience with the jewish people. Unfortunately, the post-war deep ideological divission put an impermeable wall between the experiences in the USSR and the history records in the USA.

    Here is one of the few accounts to come out of Russia, just prior to the start of the conflict. It should shed some revealing light on why the germans felt threated by the presence of so many jews: "Abused Russia" book 1915 http://www.archive.org/stream/abusedrussia00youn#page/n13/mode/2up
     
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    I find this answer very cloudy and irreverent. What do you want to say?
    Looking at the book "Abused Russia", for example p.18, right at the beginning "Indian and negro mixture." What I can say? Clear bulls*hit. And abused by whom?
    Whole world is envy of our natural resources and you all know that we have best weapons in the world. What you gonna do? Destroy the country from the inside with poisonous propaganda with informational war! Right? I got your message. You know, we are not that stupid. Practice BS this with your own people. :mrgreen:
     
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    The Vítkovice Iron Works in Ostrava is a massive former steel foundry/coal mine complex that fed the needs of the Austro-Hungarian empire, then the Nazis, and finally the Soviet Empire. Like Pittsburgh, Bethlehem Steel and the giant complexes in the Ruhr Valley — Essen and Bochum — this industrial dragon made the town and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed it over at the same time.

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    This region had a wealth of iron ore, the coal was nearby, and there was a river to transport the steel out. This mine was the powerhouse behind the Austro-Hungarian Empire. By the mid-1800s the Rothschilds’ partners, the Gutmann brothers, also supplied coal for all the railroads and factories throughout the empire.

    In the 1870s Engels and others were influenced in their revolutionary writings by the workers’ wretched conditions here, and their strike movements. The strikes were long and widespread, and the workers movement was gaining popularity, but many of the strikes were violently suppressed by both the police and the austrian military forces.

    Were the Rothschilds and others distant and heartless exploiters of the local workers? Likely so, in which case they may have set themselves up as inevitable targets.

    But times changed, and with the dissolution of the Autro-Hungarian Empire came the nazi occupation.

    The owner of the company that owned the steel works in Ostrau was the Viennese banker Baron Louis Nathaniel Rothschild. After the annexation of Austria, he received a visit: The Nazis wanted Witkowitzer to sell his works. Although the Nazis held him for a year in detention, where he remained with the explanation that he could not sell, it must be reviewed by London's Rothschild family branch - Alliance Assurance Co., Ltd., a London insurance company.

    At the end the Germans paid the price demanded: 2 million pounds in cash and the release of Louis Nathaniel Rothschild. Why didn they not just take it by force and kill the Jews? What made the Nazis pay a Jew for his steel works?

    When it was time for him to be released from prison, Nathaniel Rothschild asked for the time. "A little after twenty clock, Mr Baron." And he replied: "So! That's too late to disturb my friends. I go tomorrow. Good night, gentlemen."

    After the end of the Second World War, the Baron Witkowitz did not return. The communists were in property matters much less flexible than the Nazis.
     
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    Good thread. A lot of very good information.

    Probably because Jacob Schiff (JEW) had bankrolled the Japan-Russia war, in an effort to overthrow the Russian Tsar. These creeps are everywhere
     
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    The guy who is throwing money at Gingrich is supposed to be an agent of Israel. He has a newspaper there among other things. And Gingrich wants to send Americans to die for Israel.
     

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