High School should not be manditory....

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  1. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    I have seen many high school students over the years who do not take school seriously and do nothing but distract from from class time and interfere in the education of other students. I feel that if a student does not want to learn, they should be expelled. If a student refuses to do his work expell them.....Not not waste the taxpayers' money and the teachers' times on morons who will probably end up working at mcdonalds until they die anyway.....
     
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    The United States is not Japan, Singapore, nor is it Hong Kong. They don't need secondary school. Americans are stupid. This forum constantly reminds me of why they need secondary school. Whether or not they need to go to college is debatable but they surely need to go to secondary school.
     
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    People who refuse to take their education seriously should not be given one on the tax payers bill. Let their parents send them to private school
     
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    High School already isn't mandatory. If children don't want to go they won't. There's already enough kids cutting school. Just don't be surprised when it's too difficult for them to get a job.
     
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    I dont think its high school students' fault that ipods, xbox, laptops, facebook, twitter etc.. exist and are much more appealing to the minds of children. Just as sports appeal to the minds of political challenged people. Its the nature of the educational system (It being government based and not market based) to which it has not effectively upgraded and moved into the 21st century.

    Solution: End Public Education. In the case when technological advances threaten a school system, the system can come up with its own ways that will effectively integrate technological advances that appeal to people now days into the class room, rather dealing with budget cuts and the bureaucracy.
     
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    I worded it wrong....I meant, students who refuse to taske their education seriously and cause problems during classes should NOT BE ALLOWED TO ATTEND PUPLIC HIGH SCHOOL.....They should be made to attend private schools or nothing at all.
     
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    If you didn't have public education people wouldn't have to worry about their tax payer dollars being put to good use. Parents would send their children to school to have their education actually worth something and they would only send their children to school depending upon whether or not they believe it's worth it. But unfortunately you have public education. Merely any kid can simply attend, waste time and not learn a thing. And to add insult to injury still graduate.

    Oh well, at least your education system is still better than most countries. That's not saying alot, but whatever.
     
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    America has one of the worst education systems out of all 1st world nations......and that includes private schools
     
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    No America has one of the worst public schools. Private Schools TIMSS has rated it among the top 10 for 2007.
     
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    What is the average cost of non-religious private schools in America? And I say non-religious because if we abolished public schools then the non-religious folk would need someplace to send their kids.
     
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    How would I know? Not all private schools are religious. They can be if they if they want. It's a private school.
     
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    Actually there are very few private Elementary and High Schools that are not religious based......There are plenty of colleges that are non-religious, but that is different.
     
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    What if you made an appropriate assessment of the students abilities first? Some of them don't belong there and might fit in better in, say, in a trade school. Others will likely benefit as then emphasis can now be focused on their interests.

    Then maybe make an equally appropriate assessment of the education system, with specific consideration to the fact teachers can't be fired. A deep look at what's being taught, and how.

    To immediately decide these kids are misfits who won't learn without allowing for the possibility that they are not being taught is kind of dumb.

    But, then again, so is expecting today's kids to learn anything by having a person stand in front of them and talk. Our educational model dates back to the time of the Grecian philosopher Seneca.
     
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    Maybe in 1954. Not any more. Now there is a mixture of Private Schools. Boarding schools, charter schools, religious schools and independent schools. The religious schools are called "catholic schools."
     
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    Boarding Schools and charter schools are all much to expensive for the average family to send their children to.. Religious based ones are the only ones that are remotely affordable and they only allow stdents who practive their religion.
     
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    Boarding schools you go away for school. Charter Schools are free. They're the same as pubic schools only they aren't bound by the same rules as public schools and they are very selective of who can actually attend.
     
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    Charter schools are public schools that are not affiliated with the district. They generally have no tuition and consistently outperform their district counterparts.
     
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    Oh, she listed charter schools as a form of private school. Since they are legally public schools, does that mean charter schools are payed for by taxes?
     
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    They take public funds but they are still not a public school per say. Not just anyone can join. It's based on a lottery style selection process.
     
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    I like anything that involves reducing the amount of money spent by government at any level, but this idea sounds like it'd be more trouble than it's worth in the long run.

    We already have tons of kids dropping out anyways, they can do so legally at 16. If a kid is unmanageable, they get expelled. It seems like most of those who really don't want to be there find a way out. I'd rather we keep making an attempt (vain or not) to educate our future citizens.
     
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    They themselves do not choose who joins. Private schools can deny students for any reason...It';s their choice.....
     
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    They don't choose who joins but they can choose who can stay. Zoned students are allowed to be enrolled as well. But only zoned students. Charter schools are frequently trying to check the status of the address of the students just to see if they aren't lying about where they live.

    That's why they have lotteries in the first place.
     
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    Personally I beleive that people should not have to pay taxes to pay for charter schools if their kids would not even be eligible to attend the school.
     
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    Then you should support school choice. Allow children to go to the schools they want to go to instead of the schools they are forced to attend.
     
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    I do support that.....but most parents don't. They know it would mean that they would have to take their kids tho school themselves because buses are not gonna travel over a certain distance to take them to school
     

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