property rights vs human rights

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  1. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    which rights are superior?
     
  2. Dasein

    Dasein New Member

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    Human.

    That was easy. :fart:
     
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    kshRox01 Banned

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    Property rights are human rights.
    Humans own property.

    All rights are based upon the right to own property.
    Food, clothing and shelter are property.
     
  4. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    what about the 'right to life'?
     
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    Let's see. Your business--property--is taken by the government and then your home--property--is taken by the government and how is that "life" thing going?

    Property rights are the rights a human has, or had, in owning property. What are human rights worth when your property rights have been taken?
     
  6. dujac

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    i'd say the quality of life is low, when all you can do is regurgitate flimsy political rhetoric
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    I'll go with an "unalienable" one - Liberty - the freedom to make my own decisions and choose my own destiny as much as possible, as opposed to having them shoved down my throat by ******* bureaucrats.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Property rights are human rights, since humans own property. Don' they teach logic anymore?


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    Apparently not. But I suppose there is a unique difference we are suppose to know.
     
  10. dujac

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    are you not aware of the dichotomy between property rights and fundamental personal rights?
     
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    WertyFArmer Well-Known Member

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    The dichotomy between personal liberties and property rights is a false one.

    http://www.humanrights.is/the-human...anintroduction/definitionsandclassifications/

     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Let's see you spell is out for us.

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  14. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    how so?


    really, you don't see the difference between the 'right to life' and 'property rights'?
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    I'm waiting for you to give us your view.

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  16. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    my view is that life is distinct from property


    do you see the difference between the 'right to life' and the 'right to property'?
     
  17. Crafty

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    I don't, both are things one person should not take from another. They are both fundamental human rights. I don't see how anyone can be against property rights. When a person works and creates something not allowing them to keep the fruits of their labor is slavery.

    Are you arguing killing and slavery are both not bad things? In fact in some cases killing someone is probably more human then slavery, why prolong suffering?

    On a side note this doesn't belong in the current events section.
     
  18. dujac

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    nothing i wrote suggests that i'm against property rights

    this is about the hierarchical relationship and distinctions between fundamental human rights and property rights
     
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    I thought we were discussing 'right to life' and the 'right to property'? But, you seem to be unwilling to give us your view on the issue. Why the fandance?


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    as i said, i view fundamental human rights as distinct from property rights

    do you disagree with that?
     
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    Don't I 'own' my life?
    Is it not my property that I have rights to?

    If you take it or damage it aren't you held accountable?
     
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    Property rights are human rights.
     
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    Yes, property rights are part of fundamental human rights.
     
  24. Ethereal

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    Neither is superior as they are not mutually exclusive. The notion of competing rights is a fallacy. We all have the same and equal rights to life and liberty.
     
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    You said it before I could.
     

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