Merkel betrays Germany to save the Central Banks and the Euro!

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  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Deutsche: Merkel ist eine Puppe der Central Bankers und des Internationalen Währungsfonds. Sie hat alle von euch verraten! Die Griechen und Italiener lügen zu bekommen, was sie wollen. Das Französisch wird auch verraten euch alle .... Deutschen, zu wecken! Befreien Sie sich von Merkel, bevor sie Deutschland zerstört!

    German Chancellor Merkel has bought into this despicable "fraud balloon" floated by the IMF and European Central Bankers to save the bankrupt socialist mudholes of Europe. This whole thing was discussed extensively last August at Jackson Hole, Wyoming, by these manipulators and our own Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate. When you mash all the air bubbles out of it, it is nothing more than the same kind of idiotic, dangerous fraud the Fed has been pulling on the U. S. Dollar since summer of 2007: create gigantic piles of debt based on increasingly worthless money and throw it at systems that are so corrupt that they cannot be repaired without bankruptcy and a complete breakdown of society.

    Before it is all over the Fed. will probably drag us into this European "problem", too, because big American financial institutions are heavily involved in Euro-denominated "investments".

    You Germans have one chance: vote no-confidence in Merkel now, or drown in the coming European economic catatrophe which is mathematically inevitable! You cannot rely on the French or the Italians to be trustworthy, so, trust in yourselves! We Americans cannot even help ourselves, and we cannot help you, either. And if the Chinese really can help you, what is the total price you will have to pay...?
     
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    The people are very resourceful and productive.

    They just need guidance and the tools to succeed.
     
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    The EuroZone is already selling whats left of its soul to China.... The U.S pays China 74 million a day in just interest and that snowball is getting bigger everyday. China will continue to buy Euro and U.S debt until the finacial systems of both are completely beholden to the them. Greedy obsessive compulsive capitalists inthe West have ceated and empowered a capitalistic monster in China that will enslave them along with the rest of the people they served up as snacks.

    If all goes according to plan... China is just providing enough rope to make good collars and leashes out of and greedy (*)(*)(*)(*) politicians and corporate swindlers are lining up to be hired as handlers.
     
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    Polly, you do realize they get control in return for investment, right? That's ultimately what this is about.

    Over time, a lot of Europe will essentially be vassals of Germany in an economic sense.
     
  5. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    In theory, there is validity in your observation. Taking possession of one's new assets, however, could prove very difficult. Perhaps it's not so dire for the Germans as I imagine. After all, since World War II ended, and even during the National Socialist period after Hitler came to power, they were, and have been socialists in their own right. And, soon it will the holidays, and then it will be Fasching, and maybe the Germans will all be too drunk to care for a nice, long time. Es spielt keine Rolle....
     
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    Germany cannot afford to allow the EU to collapse. It would mean the end of the German economy.
     
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    You do realize that it is the creditor, not the debtor, who suffers when so much of his economy is tied up in failed loans, right? If the Chinese really want to bind themselves to the economic wellbeing of the US and EU, why should we say no?
     
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    That depends... In the case of governments providing funds (and the IMF), powers and leverage are granted in return for bailouts and loans.

    Apparently, the powers that be in Germany believe what they'll get in return with regard to power are worth the investment in Greece, for example. With China buying up so much of our debt, something similar may become true here.
     
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    Total BS!

    Germany has a lot of economic ties with non EU-Coutries.

    Germany doesn't need EU.
     
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    Hitler bows in reverence to your ability to create a one-world economic union of Europe without a single bomb being dropped between the nations.

    I see it all clearly, know what was accomplished through the backdoor of political pandering in America? Central Banking control of the issuance of currency.

    There is no difference, Europe is screwed. I hope there are enough anti-zombies in America to end this ridiculousness.

    The EU (*)(*)(*)(*)ed you all. Nigel Farage for president of Euro.
     
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    I think that it is more a matter of keeping Greece and Portugal in the EU. If they were kicked out, then a lot of problems would be solved.
     
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    I wonder what happens, if the communist party wins control in Greece and screws the EU over?

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    Thats a pretty simplistic way of looking at it. The Chinese people are used to living at a standard of living much lower than ours..they are used to living with alot less freedom and rights. The Chinese could have their economy crash after destroying ours and thewy wouldnt blink as far as standard of living goes... plus they would still own all the infrastructure of industry and production. The Chinese are busy spending all that U.S interest payments beefing up their military while they use all those profits from transplanted corporations to buy up resources and secure energy contracts all over the world. If it all comes crashing down .. who do you think is going to be in the best position to become the new world power?

    This isnt some benign little loan between two law abiding entities... this is a global financial game of chicken between crony capitalism and ruthless capitalism and China is driving a freight train.
     
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    Thank You! Germany doesn't need the EU. Someone who finally knows what's really going on. I hate the fact that Merkel will be, though indirectly, rescueing Herman Van Rompuy's ugly and worthless ass in this scenario.
     
  15. Pollycy

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    It could happen, and it could happen elsewhere in Europe, too. And old Vladimir Putin would be watching with those beady, intelligent eyes of his....
     
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    I think it's likely to happen. Southern Europeans don't seem to be in a hurry to gut the welfare state. I've read that the Greece gov't has laid off exactly zero people.

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    Overall, the thing I resent most is that when the situation really gets bad, the United States will barge right into the middle of it, courtesy of the Federal Reserve System. They will intervene, and do everything necessary to protect the involvement of US banks in Euro-denominated "investments", whether that entails risk and further diminishment of OUR economy in the process.

    I watch the Fed, the European Central Banks, and the International Monetary Fund like a hawk, and if there is a manipulated conspiracy to create a one-world economy, followed by a one-world government, it is because of them.

    The only possible antidote to this "one-worlder" poison would be something that might be worse: a coalition of Russia and China. Putin has never accepted the fall of the Soviet Union, and he will work tirelessly and ruthlessly to bring it back in a "new and improved" form. China? Yeah, they need us now, but they might tire of the current terms of the relationship after they achieve leverage over us. At the rate we are going, and especially in view of this latest European "prostitution" to the Chinese in this Euro crisis, we could safely project that in less than two years Europe and the US will need China a lot more than China needs any of us....
     
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    I agree 100%, and I appreciate your excellent comments here at PF. :beer:

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    Where are you going to get your labor? You're already having to draw in workers from other countries--and that's made much easier by the EU's open borders. You may have strong ties with other countries, but the rest of the EU is still your primary market.
     
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    Very true and that is why Germany decided for the EU in the first place.

    It is an exporter.

    I think that the way forward is a synthesis of political/legal frameworks.

    The currency being unified did not go far enough but each country does itw own thing.

    We are at a painful point. Winding up the currency is possible and has been done before but it is not easy. I think that we should just accept our common future.
     
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    You have had lots of Gastarbeiter (guest workers) for decades and that worked out well, except that lots of them decided to stay in Germany and that attracted even more of them. Now you have that problem.

    Next you absorbed East Germany with all its crumbling old broken infrastructure and polluted countryside. In the long run the reunification was a good thing, but it was very expensive and you are still trying to get the eastern part of Germany up to the level of western Germany.

    So in the middle of this you join the EU, throw out the Deutschmark, and adopt the Euro. Now if crappy little countries like Greece and Portugal go bankrupt, then it is likely that Spain, Italy, and maybe even France will follow. And because Germany tied itself to all of them, you will go down too.

    For a 100 years Germany has made some of the finest products in the world, like automobiles. But the political decisions Germany has made for the past 100 years are probably the worst of any country in the world. This Euro and its socialism disaster mark the first time you have ever gotten in bed with the French, and now you will live to regret it.
     
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    BS, we have a lot of unemployed people.
    The capitalists are always looking for cheaper labour, that is why they need foreigners.

    Do you believe that Germany will be unable to sell its products to non EU countries?
     
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    There are no Germans (except our government) who believes that we shall accept this crazy future.

    And you are not German, your lack of German language skills gives you away.
     
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    Yet the Germans who have voting rights ( I lost mine ages ago) seem to vote for the left party's...
     

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