What is better: Communism or Capitalism?

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  1. nicholaspopov

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    The king, the president, secretary-general of the KP ...
    The one-man-rule: it's Democracy or Monarchy?

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    The ‘Russian October’, José Martí, Comandante Che are shrouded by an aura of heroics and romanticism, … but the outdated governance paradigm dooms freedom fighters to failure initially. And the all has returned full circle … Why?

    The chronic error of the revolutionaries and freedom fighters: http://www.modelgovernment.org/en/which-of-the-ideologies-and-government-really-serves-for-people.html
     
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    Anarchy.
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    Both have had the chance to work, if only personal interests were not involved.

    As personal interests always are, neither work adequately.
     
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    Which is better? You tell me.

    Ford, Acura/Honda, Lexus/Toyota, Nissan, Rolls Royce, Mercedes, Lamborghini, Volkswagen,

    OR

    Skoda Estelle, Lada, Yugo, Dacia, Zaporozhets, Moskvitch

    Here's one for a bonus laugh....from North Korea:

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    When the South Koreans began designing and producing cars from scratch, the dictator Kim Il-sung ordered his minions to show that the North could build cars, too. Except they had no clue what they were doing. The North Korean automotive “engineers” imported several Mercedes 190Es and copied most of the parts with workmanship that made the Yugo look like a Rolls-Royce. The result was the Kaengsaeng 88. Allegedly, it had a four-cylinder engine, no heat, and no air conditioning, and the cabin was prone to fill with dust while driving. Kaengsaeng made several examples, and this one was spotted in the capital, Pyongyang, in 1989. It is possibly the only photo of this vehicle ever taken.
    http://www.caranddriver.com/features/cars-from-north-korea-features-car-and-driver
     
  5. nicholaspopov

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    "The common man will remain an abandoned and defenseless orphan under the uncontrollable domination of ANY caste of “god-like” rulers: whether they call themselves capitalists or communists. This will continue for as long as the interests of each voter, more exactly pursuit of his or her voice in politics, are not will become an object of emulative attention of several independent ruling parties in the united government. And for as long as real work done in interests of this voter and its acknowledgment for it doesn’t will become sole criterion for competitive survival in power for everyone of them who should be deprived of right to the following pre-election advertizing.
    Only under this condition, can political parties do not reign, but actually work for the people and you will be able to be sure of friendly and stable future for themselves and their children." http://www.modelgovernment.org/en/which-of-the-ideologies-and-government-really-serves-for-people.html
     
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    Depends....are you more inclined to be a submissive, whiny titty baby who can't function without someone telling you when and where to do what....or, an individual who prefers to tackle life's challenges on your own terms?
     
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    So, OP, tell us which is better? The capitalists use the power of the state to establish monopolies and enslave the population. Therefore, we should spread the power out from a central planning monolith and promote a true free market, competing currencies, and miniarchy?

    But since I see what you are getting at, I will add this quote explaining where capitalism is botched.

     
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    First of all a true free market should be among political parties.
    The beginning is here: http://www.modelgovernment.org/en/the-self-balancing-model-of-government.html

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    Agreed. Anarchism rules!!!
     
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    And those mercedes and wolkswagen thriving in socialist euros
     
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    Well, nicholaspopov, I read the front page of your site, and I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.

    Your plan is to essentially spread the power and decisions among 5 parties of equal influence and decision making.

    I give this thread 5 stars.
     
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    There was a time not too long ago when this question would have been so obviously ridiculous that no one would have even bothered trying to answer it. The fact that this is no longer the case is quite scary.
     
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    There was a time not too long ago when capitalism and communism were not under the same tent of totalitarianism. Think about it, the bankers and the government are in cahoots against the citizens. It's called too big to fail, it's called bailouts, its called special privileges, subsidies, and bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Irrelevant. The topic is Capitalism vs Communism.
     
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    So great that it has to be brought to people by force.
     
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    Which one did the US use to change the world and become the richest naqtion on earth.

    Now, which ones is the US starting to model as it quickly demises?
     
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    A mixed economy with a free-market economy and bottom-up socialist/workers ideals enforced through trade unions and a welfare state is obviously best. Germany and Norway probably have the best governments in my opinion.
     
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    Which one made the US powerful? Slave labor and wartime profiteering, mixed with little competition from the rest of the world.

    Which is the US modeling itself as? A deregulated ie "liberarian" 3rd world system with no social net.

    "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."
    Benito Mussolini
     
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    Yeah, your terms are all distorted.
     
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    Thanks for the enlightened rebuttal.
     
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    Nope. That would entail you post actually deserved one.
     
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    I don't entertain fallacies of ridicule. So if you have nothing to say, buzz off.
     
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    I do have something to say: you're factually incorrect. Which is why I'm still here.
     
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    Factually incorrect in what way?
     
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    Your ideal what a mixed economy is. It's askew. Mixed economies are Market Economies and Planned Economies joint together. Germany and Norway are mixed economies, but they don't have a Free Market nor Socialistic aspects. Free Market definitively doesn't exist in either of those countries.
     

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