Evidence STILL severely lacking for Flight 93 mostly buried claim

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  1. suede

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    Skeptics claim that when Flight 93 supposedly crashed in that field in Shanksville, this is what supposedly happened to most of the plane:

    You would think if a massive Boeing 757 mostly buried in the ground, it would be super easy for that to be proved.

    HOWEVER, we truthers have asked and asked and asked and asked for the skeptics to prove this extraordinary claim that most of the 757 buried, but to no avail.

    How can most of a 757 bury in the ground and that not be easily proven by the skeptics?!?

    Some skeptics give an extraordinary claim that they have "proof" that most of Flight 93 was buried, but for some odd reason, they keep refusing to to produce this evidence to prove their extraordinary claim, even when I offered to never post here again if they do!

    There is only two logical reasons why skeptics can't prove most of Flight 93 buried and why they won't post the evidence of their claimed proof that it was:

    1) they have no evidence because
    2) nothing was buried.

    If nothing was buried, this proves an inside job.
     
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    What do you think happened on 9/11?
     
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    I think it was a false-flag attack and nothing buried in Shanksville.
     
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    I expect the next post by a skeptic in this thread to be proof that most of Flight 93 had buried, thereby debunking this thread.

    Anything else means they can't debunk it.
     
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    So there was no plane crash in Shanksville?

    A bunch of witnesses say otherwise.
     
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    Thanks for proving me right!

    :-D
     
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    Whew, that's a relief. Since some of it buried, as evidenced by the fact that they had to dig stuff up, then I guess that disproves an inside job.

    Case closed and we can move on.

    NEXT!!
     
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    Digging up dirt and rocks doesn't count. Nor does digging a hole, placing an engine scrap in it along with a few small non-UA colored pieces.
     
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    Any proof of that? Evidence?

    No? I didn't think so. Must be just another alternative theory.

    NEXT!!
     
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    LoL. That's kinda a "Pot meet Kettle" response for this thread! :-D

    Tell you what, provide evidence for the OP or concede defeat on it and I'll provide what you asked for. Deal?
     
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    Can you explain why witnesses saw the plane diving?
    Can you explain the air traffic control tracking to the scene?
    Can you explain the DNA being found there?

    Can you do that without simply alleging people are lying? Can you prove anything at all? It's been 10 years. Either you're not very good at this or there is nothing to your assertions.

    We'll wait.
     
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    Bumpidity bump.
     
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    No need to bump. Your crap has been debunked. Hundreds of credible people from all walks of life worked at the site. Not one of them has said there was anything even remotely fishy about the site. The forensic evidence proves it was flight 93. You have presented nothing but opinion as evidence, and, as we all know, opinion isn't evidence.
     
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    Link?

    Well that's kinda the irony, the evidence nothing was buried is the practically zero evidence anything was, no less most of a 757!

    Link to their testimonies?
     
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    The crash site has been extensively documented. You pretending it isn't enough doesn't change that fact. You've presented NOTHING that shows Flight 93 didn't crash there. Hell, even your opinion that it couldn't happen like that is flawed since it has happened before with nearly identical results. Were BOTH times faked? :lol:

    What is worse is you have no answer as to why it is fake to begin with. Why would the government or ANYONE try to fake a plane crash when it is so much easier to just crash a plane. This is an area of the conspiracy that truthtards have no answer for.

    One of two things happened. Either the hijackers crashed flight 93 at Shanksville, or it was staged. To stage the crash, they need to have three distinct phases; pre-9/11, 9/11 and post-9/11.

    Pre-9/11 they would have to find a remote site and stage the accident. They had to dig the hole, put tons of debris into it, scatter other debris over a wide area, and plant pyrotechnics to simulate the fire after the crash. In the mean time, they need to make real sure nobody happens to stumble upon what they are doing or it endangers the whole process.

    On 9/11 they had to hijack flight 93, land it somewhere else without anyone noticing, kill all the passengers, mutilate the remains to make them consistant with crash victims, get personal effects from their luggage, get out to Shanksville, plant all the evidence, fly a 757 close to the ground and pretend to crash it, set off the pyrotechnics, and hope nobody notices the 757 leaving the area.

    Post 9/11 they would have to pay off/ bribe/ threaten the NTSB and all the workers, all the responders to the crash site, and all the forensic specialists and keep them quiet now for over a decade. They also had to destroy flight 93, make it look like the plane crashed, and return the parts to AA.

    If any part of that fakery is discovered, everyone involved in the conspiracy would get the death penalty.

    OR

    They could just crash the plane and call it good.

    The fact you honestly expect anyone to believe the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) story of a faked crash site is amazing.
     
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    If it was, then why are you "skeptards" having such a hard time proving most of the 757 buried?

    Yeah, because this thread is not about that, duh! Don't you know how to read?

    Really? Link?!

    Give me a list of answers that would satisfy you.

    Or just lie that there was tons of debris in the ground, which all evidence points to that was the case or else or threads like this would have been debunked long ago!


    PS - still waiting for those links I asked in my previous post.
     
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    We don't need to prove it, especially not to someone like you who wouldn't believe anything presented anyway. Hundreds of people were at the crash site and saw the parts. Numerous people saw it go down. No evidence to the contrary exists. To everyone but you, that is good enough.

    Sure do. The evidence exists. You wish to pretend it doesn't. You have NOTHING that backs up your bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Nuff said.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff7h7Ll8Dl4"]PSA Flight 1771: Eerily Similar To Shanksville - YouTube[/ame]

    Still can't think of one, eh? :lol: Figures.

    If they lied, why aren't all the people at the crash site saying they lied? Come on. It should be easy for you to present someone who claimed there was no debris.

    :lol: You don't need links. Just look in past threads. The fact you still have zero evidence to back up your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) speaks for itself.
     
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    Typical "skeptard" response.

    Sounds like you're still arguing about whether the plane crashed, which again is not the topic of this thread, but evidence does exist that nothing was buried, it's called there was no evidence that most of a 757 was indeed buried!

    Link?

    I saw no evidence that any of that plane buried. So how is this crash relevant except to provide evidence for my case?

    No I can think of a lot, just want you to post the one's you'll except so I don't waste my time.

    Because most of the people weren't involved with the excavation. There was only about a dozen or so people doing that and most of them were FBI agents.

    It should be EASIER for you to present some of the alleged tons of debris that supposedly came out of there! lol Having a hard time with that, huh?

    You mean you lied that there were? Nice.
     
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    Is it?

    You stated the following

    I'm assuming you would not say that if you didn't know it to be true. Do you have any evidence or proof that that's what happened or are you just making it up?
     
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    Um, yeah!

    I don't think you skeptics have any legs to stand on in questioning if someone made a claim up! lol (See my sig)

    Btw, why did you skip this part of my post?...

     
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    I really try not to have a conspiracy about this, but the story of this plane makes absolutely no sense.
     
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    Because I asked you for proof first. So I'll ask again.

    I'm assuming you would not say that if you didn't know it to be true. Do you have any evidence or proof that that's what happened or are you just making it up?

    If you are making it up and have no proof, just say so and we'll move on.
     
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    It is called the truth.

    It is your opinion no evidence exists. It was reported that most of the plane was in the ground. No evidence exists that refutes that report. Some schmuck on the internet pretending there is no evidence does not make the evidence go away.

    Is your googler broke?


    The fact you cannot accept any evidence no matter how profound doesn't change the facts. Flight 1771 was mostly buried and had debris strewn around just like Flight 93.

    So let us here your best one. When we get done laughing, I'll let you know why it is such a lameassed excuse.


    And you know this how? :lol: BTW, FBI agents might have been there, but it is highly doubtful they would be extracting anything from the ground. That would be the job of the NTSB. Your lies are really pathetic.


    Not at all. No matter what you are presented, you just ignore it. What's the point?

    Nope. I didn't lie. You didn't even look. See the difference? :lol: I am not a truthtard who can't handle the truth so has to pretend ridiculous theories that make zero sense are true.

    So tell us again how it makes sense to stage an accident and risk exposing the conspiracy when it would be so much easier to crash the plane. Go ahead.
     
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    It is called the truth.

    It is your opinion no evidence exists. It was reported that most of the plane was in the ground. No evidence exists that refutes that report. Some schmuck on the internet pretending there is no evidence does not make the evidence go away.

    Is your googler broke?


    The fact you cannot accept any evidence no matter how profound doesn't change the facts. Flight 1771 was mostly buried and had debris strewn around just like Flight 93.

    So let us here your best one. When we get done laughing, I'll let you know why it is such a lameassed excuse.


    And you know this how? :lol: BTW, FBI agents might have been there, but it is highly doubtful they would be extracting anything from the ground. That would be the job of the NTSB. Your lies are really pathetic.


    Not at all. No matter what you are presented, you just ignore it. What's the point?

    Nope. I didn't lie. You didn't even look. See the difference? :lol: I am not a truthtard who can't handle the truth so has to pretend ridiculous theories that make zero sense are true.

    So tell us again how it makes sense to stage an accident and risk exposing the conspiracy when it would be so much easier to crash the plane. Go ahead.
     
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    Hooray! Another victory for sanity!
     
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