Obama's ATF Used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations

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  1. HB Surfer

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    Left wing government bureaucrats under Barack Obama were attempting to subvert the constitution by drumming up a false case. They should be hung for treason.
     
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    This was suspected as soon as F&F was exposed.

    Isn't it nice to be able to read leftists like a book?
     
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    That's what it was for, to circumvent our 2nd amendment rights.
     
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    Did this just come out?

    If true this is explosive.
     
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    Ubama and Holder have blood on their hands.
     
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    Look for the Propaganda wing of the democrat party (Big Media) to bury and ignore the story. That's how they play dirty.
     
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    Like CBS, amirite?
     
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    Lefttist support gun control, but it's not for the greater cause, it's for defanging their opposition.
     
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    Obama, HRC, Holder and the rest should be put in (*)(*)(*)(*)ing jail, the commie (*)(*)(*)(*)ers.
     
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    That the totalitarian left seeks a disarmed citizenry is no accident.
     
  11. Naruto

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    Everyone knew this was their real goal when all the gun control control talk was going on in the news when asshat first got elected then boom, a BP agent gets killed. You now when the Mexican gun violence be was being attributed to US gun shops on the border back in 08. The ATF needs to be disbanded and its top officials sent to jail along with holder. I hope the next GOP presidents, who ever he is, prosecutes all those involved in the Obama administration.
     
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    This story should easily be the headline and leading story for all the newspapers and broadcasts if we had an honest media.... anyone want to be they make it a "sidebar"?
     
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    The Executive Branch of the United States willfully and intentionally attempting over run the citizens constitutional rights?

    ... and in the process get hundreds of Mexicans murdered as well as U.S. Agents?

    All for the sake of stomping on 2nd Amendment rights?

    This should be leading ALL news broadcasts.
     
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    Democrats will Demand AWB 2 Within 6 months & Blackmail some GOP Lawmakers to join them.
     
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    It should be huge news. However....

    I am sure there were R's that knew about this and didnt say anything.

    This is going to be a giant CYA operation.

    Aka nothing is going to come of it. You would think that CAlderon would be exploding right now but remember he was calling for tougher gun laws in the US. Imo he knew about this as well.
     
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    If Calderon knew, Obama knew.
     
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    No kidding.
     
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    Sadly this is way over the head of this administration and lays at the feet of activist courts that allowed 'infringement' on what shall not be infringed. That said, this administration's conduct cannot be excused, heads should already have rolled.
     
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    Actually, and I have posted this in a couple threads about Fast and Furious in months past, I remember seeing Obama Administration folks, and even Hillary Clinton, making the case for tighter gun law because of America bought weapons showing up in Mexico. Then when FF broke, all that was if it never happened.

    I have tried Google, but with no success. But I swear I saw it, as I was PO'd at the notion back then, long before we heard of FF.

    Maybe someone can find something.
     
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    Are you talking about that video of Hillary blaming the US for the violence in Mexico? I remember it because it almost made me vomit...
     
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    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mexi...s-guns-violent/story?id=13047470#.TuDaEFYeWuI

    "The lapse of the U.S. assault weapons ban in 2004 has made it easier for weapons smugglers to obtain and traffick dangerous guns south of the border, critics say. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has reported that 90 percent of guns recovered in Mexico have ties to initial sales in the United States.

    The gun used to kill U.S. special agent Jaime Zapata last month was first purchased in Texas, ICE officials confirmed this week. And the AK-47 that killed Border Agent Brian Terry in Arizona in December had ties to an Arizona dealer, officials say. "

    Oh the spin...
     
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7963292.stm

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...of-gun-control-on-mexican-drug-cartel-problem

    If people dont like those sources there are plenty of others....

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...rtels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html

    Oh look a bank laundering drug money... So we "lose" guns and we have banks laundering drug money...

    But We the people need to lose our rights because WE are to blame for the violence in Mexico.. Give me a bloody break!
     
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    Where are the libs on this? The US Presidency allowed a federal Agency to conduct a illegal campaign to sell weapons to drug cartels just so they could convince the American people the AWB needs to be increased. If this administration is capable of using tax payer resources to manipulate the American people, then what else are they doing? The federal government is too (*)(*)(*)(*)ing big thanks to Dems and the GOP and it needs to be brought down to the level of the founding fathers.
     
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