Why we don't see more Muslim reformers, part 578. And these aren't real reformers in any case, as you can see from their reference below to "Islamophobes." "Islamophobia" is a manipulative coinage invented by the Muslim Brotherhood to silence criticism of Islamic supremacism and jihad; that Manji and Dibi would buy into it casts doubts upon their interest in genuine Islamic reform. Manji, for her part, touts recovery of a fantasy Islam of her own making that she claims existed in the mythic past. Self-delusion and deception are not reform. But the fact that she dares criticize Islam in its present form in any way brought out the Allahu-akbaring thugs. "Salafists disrupt liberal Islam debate in Amsterdam," by Heleen Sittig for Radio Netherlands, December 8 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwExkrCesKg&feature=player_embedded"]NOS Nieuws - Ooggetuigevideo verstoring bijeenkomst in De Balie met Manji en Dibi - YouTube[/ame]
What are the authorities waiting for, DEPORT THEM to Pakistan, Iran or Yemen where they belong, it is clear they are enemies of the State.
Sorry, your definition of "Islamophobia" is a whacked out and incorrect as is your definition of "Islam". However, your plagiarized description of Manji gave me some inspiration. (YOu really should consider giving some attribution for the IMMENSE amount of material you post as your own. I guess intellectual property is NOZT part of the Hate Islam creed!)
Those islamist were not expressing a controversial opinion they were actually threatening the good Muslims and calling for the down fall of Amsterdam. Those Islamist have openly reveal their true selves and that is they are enemy of the State not sleeper cells but open agents of the Islamist.
Oh no, that are those crazies from Sharia4Belgium. They are probably from my home city Antwerp... Clip from Pauw & Witteman, partly in English (from 2m20sec): [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej2X6mf0HzU"]Pauw&Witteman[/ame]
Hey Dutch, I often watch Pauw&Witteman -- you should watch Terzake on Canvas. I'm sure you get the TV channel, no? BTW -- the same happened in Belgium, Antwerp about a year or so ago. Here the clip of Terzake: where a debate for atheists called "Long Live God, Away With Allah" at the University of Antwerp was disrupted by Radical Muslim thugs. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPOh4oA1SCs"]Sharia4Belgium Disturbs Debate at University of Antwerp[/ame]
BTW -- Dutch, hear that woman Samira Azabar speaking. What an apologist -- geez. And she's supposed to be a "liberal voice". It's really remarkable that she can't condemn these actions.
Geez, (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Christ... I'm really pissed now, re-watching that clip. There really is a Muslim problem that needs some serious fixing...
Dave, why are you in another thread about Islamic radicals getting arrested, running interference for Islamists? You said that Islam basically sucks, but here you are again playing the apologist. What gives? _
Don,... Get real,... The anti-Muslim party, Vlaams Belang, are anti-democratic too. I'm just fed up with the Left that wants to wipe this all under the carpet and deny there is a problem. How could it be that about 2 years ago a 17 y.o. girl, who's parents were Muslims, died because they ordered an excorcism on here because she was a lesbian... This is a real problem. Just a couple of day ago, a trial was concluded in which an emancipated young woman (20 y.o.) -- a Law student -- was murdered by her brother because she had a Belgian boyfriend and because she refused to marry her Pakistani cousin. Not only the brother was found guilty, but also the father and the mother. Then the oldest sister (who looked Westernized) goes crying on TV: "My parents and little sister did nothing",... Yeah, duh! That's why they were found guilty too -- they knew of the planned murder and did nothing! The mother said, that she preferred her daughter to die instead of happily marrying a Belgian guy. Murdered Sadia Sheikh:
Islamophobia is when people like you are outrage we point out that Muslims commit vastly more violent acts in name of their religion then every other religion combined. Cute words but in all you are just busy 24/7 screaming Muslims are not extremely violent shame they prove otherwise on a daily basis.