Is USA the main cause of misery and terror in the world? Ron Paul thinks so!

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  1. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

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    Ron Paul is always consistent, consistent that America is at fault for everything bad in the world and the only way to fix it is a second apology tour and abandonment of every treaty America has and let China rule the planet while we content ourselves to a pre-monroe doctrine foreign non-policy.

    Ron Paul foreign policy is one of "Blame America First"
     
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    yes it is, it fights wars for profits instead of defense

    we need more socialization of government to become humane in the world because capitalism causes this
     
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    He appears to be the only politician in America who is not swallowed up by internal propaganda and sees the USA for what it really is.

    Were he to attain the Presidency, the fallacy that without the US, the world could shudder to a grinding halt would then be placed on the back burner and all that misguided pride would disappear up one's rear end.

    He now stands zero chance of White House occupancy because the pursuit of *happiness (*we are top dog, you little crap artists) would diminish in his quest to make the US a better place.
     
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    We like to think that we are exceptional.. and I think our foreign policy should reflect that, don't you?

    We went to war in Iraq based on lies and at the constant insistence of JINSA, AIPAC, the PNAC dual citizens and Netanyahu's Clean Break Strategy.

    Where are your loyalties? Are they with the American people and their sons and daughters or elsewhere?

    My question is do we have the courage for a course correction when we have dumped the gyro???
     
  5. SiliconMagician

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    Geez Margot, Jews are not the powerful.

    That would be like suggesting the NAACP could get us to go war in Africa.
     
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    Currently AIPAC is lobbying to forbid any diplomatic efforts re: Iran.

    We are being goosewalked into another war. Pay attention to news re: JINSA and to Bibi's rhetoric.
     
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    Curious that his stand on 'America the Evil Force' in the world seems to be in line with Obama's. And there he is, capturing the interest of the American electorate. What does that suggest about the mindset of the American electorate? I would surmise that a large percentage...republican and democrat..liberal and conservative..tend to agree with that hypothesis. Is Ron Paul the white version of Obama? Have they both tapped into some deep seeded guilt harbored by a large number of Americans?
     
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    The interesting thing is how they have convinced so many of you that we should act as the world's police. You can argue about the intentions behind our interventions all you want, but it's quite expensive for us to continue on this path.

    I believe that some of it does have to do with what Margot is saying, but I also believe it is to try to establish George HW Bush's dream of world order through the UN and other international committees. I guess that you need to ask yourself if you are concerned with America, or if you have a grand vision of world order that is looking more and more like what Congressman Larry McDonald said.

    "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and communism under the same tent, all under their control...Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
     
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    Lie #1.

    Lie #2.

    Lie #3.

    Lie #4.

    Lie #5.

    Lie #6.

    Who do you work for? Are you part of the Gingrich campaign? Romney?
     
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    That turd has zero chance of being elected, that is the only important fact for this idiot. He'll never get out of the primaries, so no need to worry about this imbecile. The fact that many of his supporters are former lyndon larouche psychotics is proof that he is a lunatic with no political future.

    The best thing out of his running for pres. is that he has left congress, so after this campaign fails like the others we won't have to see him at all any longer.
     
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    You're better off ignoring the mentally ill trolls that the forum admins manufacture to keep the forum active.
     
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    Who do you work for? Are you part of the ron paul campaign, formerly of lyndon larouche?
     
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    Silicon, I knew America was going to invade Iraq about a month after 911.

    I knew this because the Boeing factory here makes the carbon fiber trailing edge flaps for the F18 fighter bomber. These wear out after a certain number of flying hours.

    Instead of the normal flow of small batch orders, the factory was given a blanket order and told: "Make them as quickly as you can, we will take everything that you can make" and given an open ended production order for these very expensive items.

    There were numerous other indications that the decision had been taken long before it was ever made public if you knew where to look.
     
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    Whether or not it was "glee" it was certainly used as a pretext to launch a war on Iraq. Is everyone ok with using the deaths of 3,000+ Americans to rally the cheerleaders for war with a nation that had nothing to do with the event?

    See General Wesley Clark's statements about being told about plans to attack 7 nations immediately after 9/11. This was their Pearl Harbor. The neo-cons are evil, sorry you've fallen for their bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

     
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    Bull Crap and you know it. According to US establishment Middle east is the cause for US finanical crisis as well, right?
     
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    You got me.

    Your posts are mindless ramblings with zero factual information
     
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    Well, there are arguments both for and against America causing the disaster in the middle east, and for and against the idea. And, of course it is never all America's fault nor is America completely innocent in all of this, but I don't want to go there.

    Rather, it seems to me, that we're in a new century now and since it is the first century where the middle east has been the primary spotlight of Government policy and action, rather than countering Soviet Russia or German aggression that was the spotlight of the 20th century, the 21st century is the best time to review our policies and actions regarding the Middle East.

    Perhaps it's time to upgrade our strategies rather than risk repeating, in spirit, a great military blunder of Word War 1 -- The best military tactic of the time was still a calvary charge, but charging a machine-gun nest on horseback is not good. In the same way, our foreign policy is a dinosaur relic of the WW2 era, and the strategies of that time didn't include stabilizing the Middle East in any meaningful way or we wouldn't be in trouble right now.
     
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    I keep hearing people say that. But if it was nothing but lies, who started the lying? What were people saying before Bush ever came into office? It's been proved by not only an independent investigation, but also a bipartisan investigation that Congress was given basically the same intelligence Bush had. The head of the CIA was a Clinton appointee and kept on by Bush.
    So let's look what was said, who said it and when they said it.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwqh4wQPoQk"]Democrats on Iraq + WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destruction) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Almost all of our representatives are progressive imperialists. lol
     
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    And Ron Paul is right in this point. Completely right.
     
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    They are merely an exact reflection of the mindless stupidity of the far left/ron paul psychotics whose lunatic ravings never stand up to any scrutiny, which is why the chimp moron ron paul has been getting blown out of presidential elections for almost 25 years.
     
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    Its funny you think he has been running for President for 25 years.
     
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    The global economy *would* grind to a shuddering halt were it not for the USA. Our entire quality of life is completely and totally reliant on the relative stability we impose on the world.

    We all know what Europe will do when China grows belligerent towards Japan and other island nations in its sphere of influence and makes a grab at the South China Sea and all its resources and make it into a Chinese lake.

    Wag those fingers and say "Shame on you!"

    Like that is going to work or something. It is only the threat of US military intervention that keeps the Chinese, and the Iranians and entire host of other bad actors from imposing their will upon the entire world.

    Like Canada can do anything to stop them?

    The world is only stable through intimidation, not talk.
     
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    Main??? No. Do we play a part??? Without doubt.
     
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    His foreign policy is almost as stupid as his economic policy.
     

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