Why do women kill their own children, unborn or otherwise?

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  1. yguy

    yguy Well-Known Member

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    Very young children are innocent little devils. Mean spirited mothers resent the devil part consciously because it inconveniences them, and the innocent part with unconscious envy that they dare not acknowledge lest they become aware of the source of that mean spirit.

    Discuss.

    BTW, I'll be reporting every attempt to derail this thread, so if you have no intelligent response to the above, do everybody a favor and dump your bilge in some other thread, TIA.
     
  2. Viv

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    I really can't speak on this, not having been in the situation.

    Your post indicates you are no more qualified. Unless you want to clarify why and if you have formed that opinion.
     
  3. yguy

    yguy Well-Known Member

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    Qualified, shmollified. Those statements are no less true if I torture women and children to death on a regular basis, and no more true if I'm an eminent pschologist whose career is dedicated to study of the phenomenon; so if you object to anything I said, just spit it out, already.
     
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    Do you have to have committed theft before you can have an opinion on it? How about murder? You know what is right and wrong. It IS in you to know the difference and it takes loads of propagandizing and lying to you in order for you to speak the lie of it. It is not necessary for you to have had an abortion to know that killing the unborn is not a good thing. It is unnatural. Women are nurturing and protective of their young. If you hae been told this is not natural then you can thank your national feminists/leftists/communists influence on this society for destroying your natural instincts.

    Why do women kill their unborn? Because they have been led to believe that they should be able to have anonymous unprotected irresponsible sex and abortion is their birth control. They have been led to believe that killing the unborn is no worse than removing a wart or a tumor. THAT is the unnatural thought. Unfortunately years of propagandizing make it unlikely that these people will see any truth of the matter.
     
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    OK, but you're talking about rationalizations which are provided by others and accepted on a conscious level. The OP is about what's happening with these women on a subconscious or unconscious level that makes such rationalizations attractive.
     
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    Infantiside is common practice in the world and in the animal kingdome. Women just do it. Natural behavior.

    But for the simple mind, we can say the god made her do it. Simple, no accountability, no worries, no need to think.

    Simple eh.
     
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    No one who thinks like this has anything to contribute to this thread, so TIA for not posting in it again, and for not responding to any of my posts from this point forward.
     
  8. cassandrabandra

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    abortion is a separate issue. that is not the killing of children.

    so lets focus on why women kill their children.

    there are a number of reasons.

    usually, there are mental health issues involved. the woman who intentionally kills her child but not herself is usually suffering some form of psychosis.

    the woman who kills her children, and then herself (or intends to kill herself) is suffering from depression.

    this is also true of most men who kill their families and themselves. There are more children killed by men in these murder suicide situations than there are are children killed by women.

    having access to a gun increases the risk, however other risk factors include economic hardship/crisis, social isolation, family conflict, fear of the future and a few other things.

    often, when a woman kills her child in these circumstances she believes that it is best for them to die along with her.

    other situations involve cases of accidental death.

    a large percenatge of these tragedies occur because of stupidity and/or poor supervision.
     
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    Because they dont want them, from various reasons (economic, social etc..)?

    Postpartum psychosis and postpartum depression can also cause such behaviour.
     
  10. jedimiller

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    Only Women kill their own children. Men would never do that.
     
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    really?

    http://www.vpc.org/studies/amroul2006.pdf
     
  12. jedimiller

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    Not talking about murder suicide..talking about killing your own unborn son. Women do it the most because they have the power to do it. Men would never force this upon a women.
     
  13. cassandrabandra

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    abortion is not killing a child.

    that is an emotive argument put forth by people who want to control the lives of women.

    if those people care about children, they would put more effort into being concerned about the children of poorer women after they were born, rather than condemning women who for whatever reason do not feel they can continue with a pregnancy.
     
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    Prove it cassandra...it should be simple for you?
     
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    child:

    1.A young human being below the age of full physical development or below the legal age of majority.
    2.A son or daughter of any age.

    while some dictionary definitions may include the foetus, this is not the standard definition.

    the majority of abortions are performed in the first trimester, during which time only the parents are likely to think about the foetus as a child, although medically it is not referred to as such.

    people who want to interfere in other people's lives only refer to the foetus as a child at this stage to promote their agenda.

    in general, they have no regard for these "children" - only for controlling the lives of others. This is evident when you take into consideration their obvious lack of concern for these children once they are born.

    one further point ....if you think that men do not "kill" their unborn children, a number of cases of intimate homicide have involved men killing their PREGNANT partners, and a significant number of young women who have abortions do so because their boyfriend does not want the child.

    in my experience, these girls often get pregnant again fairly quickly, often with a new boyfriend. This can be attributed to carelessness, but in talking to these young women I have often found that the previous termination was not their decision.
     
  16. jedimiller

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    God defines who is a human child, not a dictionary writen by humans or medical studies. sorry.
     
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    lols ... so in other words you cannot have a rational discussion?

    OK, Mr Talivangelist.
     
  18. jedimiller

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    I'm just saying...do you think that when God creates a child inside the womb of a woman..he says, "He's not a child, until he grows up." Creation is creation..no matter what size...size matters not. It can be the size of a microbel; it's still creation and living.
     
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    not everyone believes what you do - and even among christians there are different interpretations.

    a significant number of pregnancies result in spontanoeous abortions ... othereise known as miscarriages.

    why does gos allow that to happen?

    and why does he allow children to starve anyway?

    if you believe in God, then you also believe he gave us free will.

    that means we have the right to make decisions.

    the decision to terminate a pregnancy is not an easy one, and I have never met a woman who made that decision lightly.

    but the foetus in the early stage of pregnancy is not a child.

    the point at which life begins has been argued across many cultures for as long as we have known where babies come from.

    to me, if the foetus is viable outside the womb (even with considerable technological and medical support) then I am happy to refer to it as a child.

    and in the case of my own grandchild ... a lot earlier than that!
     
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    God does not create embryo inside a woman anymore than god causes things to fall to the ground or makes lightning in a storm. Nature is not god.
     
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    your "god" has nothing to do with the creation of life bud
     
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    ahh but your holy book was written by man too yeah....
    your religious beliefs have no place in this bud
     
  23. Viv

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    Some men would just wander off and leave the child unprotected and unfunded, to starve to death.

    Is that preferable?
     
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    Evidence that any of the strange assertions in the OP are true.

    You are not qualified to make them, you are not a woman and you have an agenda and reasons of your own for what you say. That does not constitute evidence any more than my saying, the OP is full of unevidenced inaccuracy.

    Again, you are not qualified to declare why or how I formed my opinion on anything, any more than you are qualified to judge people whose circumstances you know nothing about.

    Is it wrong or right to shoot someone in wartime?


    Why do men impregnate women and irresponsibly move on without supporting or caring for the child or the mother? Why do some men think that is acceptable?
     
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    A society is defined by how it treats its unborn, children and its elderly.
     

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