.... so whats the issue with atheism?

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  1. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Speaking of issues, what's your issue with spamming the forum with atheist nonsense recently? There are currently 8 atheist/anti-religion posts made by you on the first page of this section alone.

    In fact, everything you post anywhere seems to fall into one of three categories; anti-God, homosexual, or Tool.
     
  3. l4zarus

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    Quitcher whining, Atheists rule. It'll be years before they make the slightest dent in the sheer bulk of creationist spam out there.
     
  4. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    You forgot gun control, wine, music, and dark beer.

    Do you have an issue with a string of amusing images posted a couple times a week? Would you rather me bookmark and post them over time, or simply post them as I find discover them?

    You have the ability to avert your eyes.
     
  5. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not "spam" when someone posts funny stuff in the humor and satire forum!


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  6. V8rider

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    Proving there is no God is much more difficult than proving there is. The facts are well stacked in the believer's favor. Thousands of years of documents confirming the non-existence of God.. well, just does not exist. To base your entire belief on, not only nothing, but disputing everything, is just plain ignorance.

    It just seems fitting that someone so ignorant will continually post silly, nonsensical comics about God on a political forum. Aren't there atheist forums where all the atheist friends can chuckle and hoorah at the comics?

    I'm assuming the ignoramus' avatar is supposed to be his face made to look like Jesus. Between that and the guy's obsession with rubbing this in everyone's face, it's obvious that he is truly searching for some meaning in his life that he is unable to find within.

    For someone who doesn't believe in God, he sure is pretty obsessed with Him.

    I've never seen a better example of an atheist searching for God.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Atheists can't stop talking about religion, God, or religious people. I find it very odd.


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  8. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Proving a negative? Ha. Russle's Teapot dismisses your argument. Don't use fallacies as your argument.

    If you offended by the truth than I suggest averting your eyes.

    Not quite, it is a parody on a musician.
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    While I enjoyed the diatribe, I found it to be quite inaccurate. Why would posting comics pointing out the hypocrisy of the blindly religious actually be some secret search for god? No need to conjure up vast conspiracy theories to make yourself feel better, the posts are just as they seem; the dismissal of bigotry and ignorance.
     
  9. V8rider

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    Because you continually do so. It appears to be some sort of obsession. Perhaps you are just the atheist version of a religious fanatic, feeling the need to "get your point across". It's tiring. I'm a Christian and I can't stand religious fanatics, from either side.

    My argument was not about proving a negative... yes, it can't be done.. and your religious viewpoint is founded on that very precept. Your religion is all about believing in a negative. I guess that makes atheism a fallacy.

    What truth is there to be found in atheism? A truth would require something proven, yet, as we agree, there is no proof in a negative, therefore there is no truth in atheism. I guess that makes atheism false as well. Total FAIL all around.

    Man, you just keep getting deeper. Of course, if you don't like what I'm saying you can always just "avert your eyes".

    How about posting political humor & satire. That is, after all, the subject of this site. You already know that your content is offensive in nature yet you choose to continue, does it give you some sort of thrill?

    We've already pegged you as ignorant, should we add divisive to your list of traits?

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    Love ya bro!
     
  10. NavyIC1

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    1) Considering this is a "Humor and Satire" section, I find it perfectly acceptable to post the cartoons here.

    2) As an Atheist, I could care less about what religion people worship until they try to push their belief as superior to my beliefs (neither belief is superior to the other, it is just the right one for me). To each their own. Despite the stereotype, most Atheists are not obsessed with Christianity.

    3) All because the Bible exists, does not prove God exists. Pagan gods were worshipped for thousands of years (and still are) but you would be the first to deny their existance. I can write a book and someone can believe it but that does not make it true (ask any believer of the Jedi faith).

    The whole idea of religion is that the belief in a god or goddess has to be based on faith. I used to consider myself a Neo-Pagan until I realized that I did not really believe in the actual existance of any gods, just that the god and goddess are a representation of the universe and world around us. Faith is the magic that allows unbelievers to become believers. You will never be able to prove the existance of God because to do so would invalidate faith.
     
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    Oh yeah. People on this forum do this one all the time.
     
  12. RPA1

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    OK then....prove that Atheists have the answers to the Universe sans all belief.
     
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    It is a political humor and satire forum.

    Atheism and religion are not a political subject.
     
  14. Wolverine

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    They don't. However any philosophy that basing its views on the observations of the world around us possesses far more answer and is far more powerful than a belief that does not adhere to reality and instead chooses to desperately cling to what is obviously false and much requires blind faith to accept.
     
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    Yet there is a religion forum on Political forum and religion appears in Politics.
     
  16. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    It is hardly an obsession, but an interest in the masses believing what is obviously not true.

    You lack an understanding is basic logic, religion, philosophy. Atheism is not a belief in a negative, is it the disbelief in the unprovable. Atheism is not a religion in any more of a sense than not collecting stamps is a hobby.

    We are not any more inclined to believe that woman was created from a rib than we are to believe that the tooth fairy collects teeth as a somewhat disturbing fetish.

    If you can prove it, we will believe it. Very simple.

    See above.

    I would suggest talking to the administrators then, ask them to remove the religion forum being that this is a political forum.

    If you find it offensive, you have issues. Avert your eyes and move on.
     
  17. V8rider

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    Once again, a "truth" you cannot prove. You can only "believe" there is no God.

    Semantics. Same difference.

    Yet you choose the existence of God to be the "OMG", "How stupid", "why would people believe that nonsense?" subject of your definition of self?

    Why not be A-toothfairy, or A-SantaClaus? Isn't the belief in a fat man in a red suit driving a sleigh driven by flying reindeer from the north pole delivering toys to every child in the world in one night by sliding down their chimney a much more outlandish thing to believe in? Wow, what whacko nutjobs would teach their children that "truth"? Now there's something to campaign against.

    Truth be told, I bet you would if you thought there was a slight chance it was actually true. Hmmmm, might be on to something here. :mrgreen:

    Right back atcha bro!
     
  18. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Um...no.

    We do not need to prove anything, we are not claiming the affirmative. Those who claim the affirmative are those who bear the burden of prove. If you can prove the existence of a higher power, then great. Do it. But until then there is little reason to believe the statement to be true and accurate.

    Goes to show how little you have read on the subject. No one is an asanta because no one except for small children believe santa to be true. Religion is just the imaginary friend that many did not leave behind in their childhood.
     
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    Religious folks have observed miracles and visions too. In any case, if one states something is 'obviously false' then one must produce proof that their own viewpoint is valid. Atheists have not done so.
     
  20. Wolverine

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    Those miracles and "visions" are unfalsifiable, meaningless.
     
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    OK then, the 'Big Bang' is also unfalsifiable and meaningless. When using Popper for reference, one must also realize that he was basically a Socialist, in fact, a Socialist that George Soros has championed and even named his foundation "Open Society" after Popper's tome "Open Society." Although Popper seemed to denounce Socialism later on, he still advocated a combination of socialism and liberty.

    Popper was a Marxist in his youth, opposed organized religion, advocated a 'protectionist' society (protecting the 'weak' from the 'strong'), was in favor of Keynesian theory (advocated government intervention in the economy) and limited social engineering.

    More about Popper here.....

    http://sorosfiles.com/soros/2011/10...-karl-popper’s-“open-society”-philosophy.html

    'Unfalsifiable' is nothing more than a made-up socialist term and is itself meaningless.
     
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    No need to invoke a vast socialist conspiracy.... that is quite honestly the last thing I would have expected in a rebuttal. Laughable.

    Falsifiability is a basic premise of weeding out what is true and what is not. If something is not falsifiable, i.e. no way to prove or disprove it, it is meaningless. If something is falsifiable and has not yet been falsified, it simply speaks to the integrity of the theory. I would suggest reading some scientific texts to further understand the term and its use. There is not a vast left wing conspiracy. Laughable.

    General relativity for example. It is a falsifiable theory. It has not been falsified yet. It is accepted as fact. Evolution is another good example.

    As for the big bang, the big bang is a deduction of the observable universe. The universe is expanding, it had to expand from a smaller state. I would like to see something that falsifies the big bang theory please.
     
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    I told you the truth...Not a conspiracy theory.

    No, the way science weeds out what is true and what is not is by experimentation not by declaring something 'falsifiable.'

    That is meaningless babble. You don't need to attach 'falsifiable' to those theories it is on-going research. You are merely framing them with your own biased opinion.

    You can't prove the big-bang to be true in the first place or that the Universe is actually expanding.

    Redshifts, for instance, can be caused by gravitational redshift (also known as Einstein shift and part of the general relativity theory you were touting before) which refutes the assumption made that relative motion is the only cause for redshift.

    So, stating that the evidence for the Big Bang lies in redshift is the result of faulty analysis of observations not falsifiability.
     
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    All of them accurate.
     
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    ... and I told you the scientific context of the term. Whatever your intent wsas with the anti-socialist babble is irrelevant.

    That experimentation falsifies some notions and confirms others. If something is not observable, testable, or describable, it is not falsifiable. It is not valid. If it is falsifiable, and it is not falsified, is only confirms the theory.

    All science is on going research.

    Red shift is caused by the ever increasing distance between us and other galaxies.
     

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