Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's Okay to Shoot

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  1. DonGlock26

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    Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's Okay to Shoot


    A young Oklahoma mother shot and killed an intruder to protect her 3-month-old baby on New Year's Eve, less than a week after the baby's father died of cancer.
    Sarah McKinley says that a week earlier a man named Justin Martin dropped by on the day of her husband's funeral, claiming that he was a neighbor who wanted to say hello. The 18-year-old Oklahoma City area woman did not let him into her home that day.

    On New Year's Eve Martin returned with another man, Dustin Stewart, and this time was armed with a 12-inch hunting knife. The two soon began trying to break into McKinley's home.

    As one of the men was going from door to door outside her home trying to gain entry, McKinley called 911 and grabbed her 12-gauge shotgun.

    McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO that she quickly got her 12 gauge, went into her bedroom and got a pistol, put the bottle in the baby's mouth and called 911.

    "I've got two guns in my hand -- is it okay to shoot him if he comes in this door?" the young mother asked the 911 dispatcher. "I'm here by myself with my infant baby, can I please get a dispatcher out here immediately?"

    The 911 dispatcher confirmed with McKinley that the doors to her home were locked as she asked again if it was okay to shoot the intruder if he were to come through her door.

    "I can't tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby," the dispatcher told her. McKinley was on the phone with 911 for a total of 21 minutes.

    When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.

    "You're allowed to shoot an unauthorized person that is in your home. The law provides you the remedy, and sanctions the use of deadly force," Det. Dan Huff of the Blanchard police said.

    Stewart soon turned himself in to police.

    McKinley said that she was at home alone with her newborn that night because her husband just died of cancer on Christmas Day.

    "I wouldn't have done it, but it was my son," McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO. "It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child."


    http://gma.yahoo.com/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder-911-operators-okay-091106413.html

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I'm glad the mother and baby are ok.
    Thank God she was free enough to defend herself with a firearm.

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    This thread brought a tear to my eye.
     
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    Sounds like no permission was given, but then again none was needed. She simply CHA sufficiently by notifying 911.

    The intruder got exactly what he asked for.
     
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    I' love that...Yes Maam you CAN shoot an UNAUTHORIZED person in your home. As if you should even think about asking PERMISSION.
     
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    Very fortunate indeed.
     
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    Ayuh,... 'n a loaded gun,....

    Great story.....
     
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    saw it on the news she should have announced she had a gun the guy she shot was unarmed the other guy had a hunting knife that ran away, there is no way someone with a knife would run toward someone with a gun pointed at them the story got that part wrong.

    they looked like poor guys down on their luck and the one didnt deserve to die, the law claimed it self defense its unfortunate that we don't respect life anymore as a nation
     
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    except for those concealed carrying fetuses.
     
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    the protocol for that situation is to announce they have a gun before they fire, police are trained to say something be they shoot
     
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    I understand now why we kill them with impunity. They can't talk so they can't say they're armed. Rather be safe than sorry.
     
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    Any guy that breaks into an occupied home in a red state deserves what he gets. In Oklahoma, I'm sure that breaking into an occupied home is considered a violent felony, and violent felonies can be defended against by the use of deadly force. Or to put it simply, break into an occupied home, and the occupants have a right to shoot you. They need to charge the other guy with murder. After all, due to the felony he committed, his partner in crime died. That's known as felony m urder.
     
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    How does she know he is unarmed?

    Should she invite him in for some bread and wine?

    Maybe the topic of who has what weapons would come up at some point.

    What exactly do you expect her to do in that situation?

    I am so far to the left I am chilling with Ghandie, market socialist extraordinaire. I, however, do not expect someone to cower in their own home as someone attacks them. It is not the fault of the mother, it is the fault of those who put her in that situation. If someone breaks into my home, they have a problem. Fourteen of them, and they all weigh about 200grs. Plain and simple.
     
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    Why should she have announced anything? You can certainly do so, however you are essentially removing whatever tactical advantage you have by explaining to them exactly what you have for a means of self-defense.

    Do not break into peoples homes.

    Problem solved.
     
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    Yep too bad that POS didn't have enough respect for his own life that he made that poor girl shoot him. Bet he don't have the guts to do that again.
     
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    Ayuh,.... Buulllship....

    The Police say, On The Ground Mutha(*)(*)(*)(*)er.....

    Home Owners just say, Boom....:gun:

    I feel sorry for the Mom, not the moron that put her in that situation....
     
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    Ayuh,... 'n I bet yer Right,....

    Suicide by Homeowner....
     
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    what tactical advantage these are poor guys looking for some quick money they aren't trained military men looking to kill anyone

    if she had announced she had a gun they would have ran away they were unarmed, one guy had a hunting knife but that was sensationalized in the story to make them look dangerous it was probably a small pocket knife and he never brandished it to someone with a gun pointed at him
     
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    I do not care.

    Do not break unto peoples homes, violate their space, violate their rights, and expect a glass of wine and cheese.

    You do not *know* why they are there. In your home. In your space. Endangering you and your family.

    They made a violent actions against the girl. They made a violent action against the baby.

    You do not know if they are armed.

    You do not know what weapons they may posses.

    You do not know if they will pull a weapon in the event you tell them exactly what you have to defend yourself with and where you are.

    You offer such people no tactical advantage, you do everything you can to preserve yourself and those around you. If that means two in the chest, so be it. You can be liberal and not allow people to walk all over you and endanger your life and the lives of those around you.
     
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    people in canada don't lock their doors and people break in all the time steal their things and leave no one ever gets hurt or shot there but in america they have a huge preoccupation with guns and shooting and killing people

    this explicitly why stricter gun laws are neccessary, the women in the story was not in any danger as both men were unarmed the knife didn't mean a thing because she had a gun all she had to do was announce she had a gun maybe at most fire a warning shot and thats it

    there was absolutely no need to kill anyone its ridiculous how so many people are quick to justify this including the local town authorities there, those guys were most likely poor guys oppressed by the bad economy lost their jobs and forced into a life of crime
     
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    Really? Are you trying to turn these guys into the victim? When someone breaks into your home you do not know what their intentions are and she had every right to kill him. I would much rather see this mother doing exactly she did and killing one or both of them instead of the headline reading "Two men break into a home rape and murder a woman and her infant son only a week after her husband died of cancer." People like you and your mentality are what is severely wrong with this country trying to sympathize and make it look like criminals are the victims. The worst part of this is a poor woman got put in a position where she had to make a decision to take a life which is not easy and she did exactly what she had to do.
     
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    the criminals are the victims or they won't be criminals, this is the only country that shoots people that break and enter all other countries no one gets killed for that and that means less home invasions where the intention is to harm and rob instead of just to rob
     
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    The protocol is to live and be unharmed.
     
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    God, I love liberal hypocrisy. You're okay with the massacre of innocent children, but "criminals deserve life".

    What's ironic is you find what the woman did wrong (defending herself and babe), but if they had broke in and killed her (that's what people do with knives) you would push for his defense and nice treatment. Liberals are truly the champion of criminals.
     
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    Oh, is she a cop?

    Plus, wouldn't her announcing she has a gone give him a chance to either go get a gun or open fire, if he had had a gun. He was stupid enough to commit this crime.

    She didn't know how they were armed, but that someone was trying to break in. Your assuming too much and you know what assuming does?
     

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