What Vote Fraud?: O'Keefe registers Tebow and Brady to vote in Minnesota

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  1. Badmutha

    Badmutha New Member

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    God Bless James O'Keefe..........Exposing the Vote Fraud that Democrats claim "isnt a big problem"

    Agree or Disagree with O'Keefe and his methods......nobody watching the video can deny that vote fraud is incredibly EASY to commit......and incredibly HARD to prosecute.......

    ......especially without a Voter ID Law....that Democrats and Vote Fraud Supporters of all labels oppose.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqMVxeZhflI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqMVxeZhflI[/ame]


    The USA
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    .......for without Vote Fraud...Democrats wouldnt win one election.
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    Yawn. More fake voter fraud. Call me when there is an election that is materially affected by voter fraud.
     
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    How would you prove vote fraud "materially affected" an election without an ID Law?

    Anyone less ignorant have an opinion?
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    It's not really that big of a deal.



    http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/TruthAboutVoterFraud.pdf
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a "problem" for voters who do not want their votes cancelled out by illegally cast ballots, or elections decided by dead people in Chicago, etc.
     
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    This guy lost all my "respect" when he was found out to be attempting to wire tap a democratic congresswoman's building.

    I guess the Nixon apple didn't fall far from the tree.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which addresses the issue of blatantly easy fraudulent voting in Minnesota...how?
     
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    How could any qualified voter be disqualified by having to produce picture identification?

    all we are doing is preventing unqualified people from voting.

    Otherwise you are allowing them to steal the vote of someone else.
     
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    It doesn't demonstrate that actual voter fraud (other than that committed by O'Keefe) is taking place.
     
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    Me, I agree. This shouldn't happen. I posted the study above, to say how much of a little probelm this is. I support forcing people to vote with an ID.
     
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    I know there are those who doubt the existence of voter fraud.

    But in a nation of 330 million people I don't see how one academic can sit in his ivory tower and know beyond a doubt that voter fraud is not happening.

    What we want to do is put protections in place that do not depend on the honor system much like the banks that require positive I'd before handing money over to people.

    That does not seem unreasonable to me.
     
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    It honestly seems like a no brainer. No ID, no vote.
     
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    You would certainly think so.
     
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    I'm not doubting voter fraud, but unless you offer something to discredit the report, you have to accept it as the truth.
     
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    O'Keef is nothing more than a partisan hack. I see no reason to assume that his heavily edited videos resemble reality in any way.
     
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    Usually when you have a solution in search of a problem it is, by definition, unreasonable. But in the case of voter ID laws, it is not that there is no "problem." It is that the actual problem is not the one proponents are pretending to solve.

    The fact that there is a partisan divide demonstrates that pretty conclusively. Those who promote such apparently unnecessary laws do so because they believe it will make it harder for constituencies that oppose them to vote. Those who oppose such laws believe that the proponents are right. When everybody on both sides of the issue believe the same thing, it has a pretty good likelihood of being true.

    Voter ID laws have only one real purpose. They are designed do suppress the Democratic vote and help Republicans. There is no other genuine reason for them.
     
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    The man is entitled to his opinion.

    But the absence of proof is never proof that the opposit must be true.

    What I believe is that we should not rely on the honor system for something as important as voting.

    We should treat it at least as seriously as cashing a check.
     
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    I think we all agree that it is inevitable that some voter fraud exists. But I have never seen any evidence that it is widespread or has affected the outcomes of elections.

    But- as a Liberal- I do not see any reason why anyone shouldn't show ID when voting.

    I would go further- I think we should have a national ID for both voting and employment.
     
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    I see nothing inherently partisan about requiring everyone to show positive i.d when they vote.

    If Republicans and independents can do it Democrats can too.
     
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    There is proof in his report, I can assure.
     
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    Then you are not paying attention.

    Voter ID laws are promoted exclusively by the Republican party, and opposed consistently by the Democratic. It is the very definition of partisan.

    They can't all be wrong.

    The Republicans promoting these laws are convinced that you are wrong.
     
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    he cannot prove what he doesnt know.

    The man can do a search of public records and not find evidence of voter fraud but that is not "proof" that it isn't happening.
     
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    So why solve a problem that, by all accounts, is imaginary?
     
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    Voter I.d is promoted by Republicans because they have nothing to lose by limiting the election to qualified voters only.

    The Democrats oppose an honest election because they are the cheaters.
     
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    Go to the link, and look under endnotes. It appears to be a bibilography.
     

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