60% of Germans; Zionism is genocidal.

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  1. moon

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    60% of Germans; Zionism is genocidal.

    You think that's a startling statistic ? The startling result is that 4 out of 10 Germans questioned do NOT think that Zionism is genocidal. This is the 40% who build submarines for the Zionists, who supply and maintain their tanks and other equipments used to slaughter Palestinian civilians.
    Over christmas, 2008/9, the neoZionists murdered 400 Palestinian children, along with a thousand other Palestinians. It's a fact that the 40% want forgotten- swept under the carpet- denied- diminished- justified. It will never happen. Those 400 kids will haunt Zionists- and their craven supporters- for as long as it takes to shovel their doctrine into the garbage cans of history.
    What's required now is for those realistic Germans to take control of their county's policy towards Israeli fascism- to cease coddling Zionism and providing it with funds, materials and support with which to commit further atrocities against the indigenous people whom they have invaded , subjugated and terrorized. Rattle the Bundestag TODAY !
    Germans who desire to clean their fascist history from the slate of history should not be aiding and abetting fascism in Israel. They should be opposing it.
     
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    Most Turks don't seem to think what happened to the Armenians was genocidal, so I wouldn't say either aspect of this survey is surprising.

    People believe what they wanna believe -- truth or fiction.

    Hell, look at what the global warming debate degenerates into.
     
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    Completely different topic, no deflections. Nothing to do with Turkey or Armenia.

    However, if this poll was reversed you would also be saying the opposite. Funny how that works.
     
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    Maybe someone else would, but not me. I don't really take a side on the Israel-Palestine thing. All I can say is that we're allies with Israel out of a combination of practical interests and Zionist influence.

    At the same time, a lot of the nations that claim to support the Palestinians seem more interested in funneling arms than actually aiming for peace.

    It's never about morality. Both sides will hide behind that, but it should be obvious by now that ulterior motives are always present.
     
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    Robbers and the robbed do not represent ' two sides ' in the eyes of the law. One is the criminal and the other is the victim. This ' sides ' thing is a result of 60 years of Zionist propaganda.
     
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    I don't believe in the holocaust. What Jews are doing to the Palestinians is much worse than Germany's treatment of the Jews.

    The Jewish led revolution in Russia, that killed tens of millions of White Christians, must also be taken into account when discussing the origins of World War 2.
     
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    Taking account of Jewish influence is quite different from denying the Holocaust.
     
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    GERMANY?
    GENOCIDE

    You have to be kidding. Germany surely knows all about genocide.

    Zionism isn't one bit homicidal, genocidal or any other such thing.

    Zion is home to the JEWS!!!!
     
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    Holocaust denial is a crime. I simply choose not to believe in it.
     
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    Moon I'm happy to see that you are admitting you are a racist who hates Jews. Germany's Anti-Semitism Problem is the title of the article and you are supporting the article. Anti-semitic and pro-child murder. Unreal.
     
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    Yes, in German schools you learn quite a bit about the holocaust and how the persecution of Jews in Germany began.

    That's why Germans, who think that discriminating against others on base of their ethnicity and religion is wrong, feel so uneasy about the less savoury politics of Israeli Governments.
     
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    If you believe in the holocaust, then you must also accept the fact that Jews will settle for nothing less than our extermination. That is their logic after all.

    Nationalism -> Genocide
     
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    #10 marked for review.
     
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    In some countries, Holocaust denial is a crime, but not in America.

    Here, you have the freedom to say whatever you want about the Holocaust, but it doesn't change what's real and what isn't.
     
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    And as long as it's viewed that way, there will never be peace.

    The two state solution is the only hope for peace, but there is obviously opposition to that from many (particularly on the Zionist side), while at the same time, it's hard to get Israelis to support this idea when the Palestinians are equally as one-sided in their views.
     
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    Freedom of speech is America's saving grace. Let's not lose it.
     
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    "Zion" is home to whoever gains control of it. It was home to the Jews a long time ago and then became home to other groups over time.

    There is no rational way of justifying the ownership of a land through scripture or religion.
     
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    No argument here. It hasn't been infringed on as much as our other rights... yet.
     
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    I honestly don't know any zionist who opposes a two state solution. I am sure they exist, settlers perhaps but they are not the majority of the zionist movement. The overwhelming majority of zionists would happily accept a real two state solution and peace.

    The Arabs on the other hand even when they pay lip service to a two state solution and the recognition of Israel insist on the right of return (among other unacceptable things) that would indeed create a two state solution...with two arab majority and zero jewish majority states.
     
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    Well, I'm only speaking from the perspective of many American posters here. A lot of the American supporters of Israel seem to oppose the two state solution.

    Obviously, I don't know enough Israelis to make a statement on what they support.
     
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    #10 marked for review? What a moon(*)(*)(*)(*) :)
     
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    Well I was talking about Kazakh Zionists mostly :)

    In all seriousness I don't think the majority of Israel supporters (aka Zionists) in the US or elsewhere would object to a fair and realistic two state solution, even moon's beloved AIPAC has never expressed any opposition to it. But you mileage can vary of course.
     
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    It's revealing to see a neoZionism buff describing the law as ' unacceptable ' :mrgreen:
     
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    It's not really law but a law (if it existed) requiring a nation to commit a demographic suicide would indeed be unacceptable and unenforceable and would have to be repealed.

    Moreover the Arab states and the Palestinians are habitual violators of all aspects of International law and are therefore in no position to make [absurd and unrealistic] demands of others.
     
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    There is no rational way to justify any land ownership other than possession. Arabs want to drive out Jews and possess the land. If they do that, then they will rationalize their own crimes.
     

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