View Poll Results: Have You Ever Been A Victim Of Racism?

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  • Yes, I'm White and I have been a victim of racial abuse from blacks

    10 35.71%
  • Yes, I'm White and have been a victim of racial abuse by other races

    11 39.29%
  • No, I'm White and have never been racially abused

    5 17.86%
  • Yes, I'm black and have been a victim of racial abuse by Whites

    2 7.14%
  • Yes, I'm black and have been a victim of racial abuse by other races

    1 3.57%
  • No, I'm black and have never been a victim of racial abuse

    0 0%
  • Yes, I'm of another race and have been a victim of racial abuse

    1 3.57%
  • No, I'm of another race and have never been racially abused

    0 0%
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    4 14.29%
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisLed View Post
    hey. whiners. NOBODY gets thru this life without being the victim of someone's malice. EVAH.
    Certainly. But it doesn't mean that we shouldn't work on that.
    You call us "whiners", because we discuss what we are not happy about? You are mocking our rights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_777 View Post
    Certainly. But it doesn't mean that we shouldn't work on that.
    You call us "whiners", because we discuss what we are not happy about? You are mocking our rights?
    you don't have a right not to be picked on. Why don't you work on that and see where it gets you. Get used to this behavior. You got it done to you and i've no doubt that you have done it to someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    I never said White kids don't get bullied by Black kids. I saw a few incidents in my high school. However, it was never to the level that you described. Then again, I went to a high school that was in a rural part of the South that was predominantly White(My high school was about 80% White). If I was the principal, I would have every kid in the school expelled for bullying, no matter what race or ethnicity that kid was. Bullying is bullying. I've been a victim of it, and for that reason, I would be very rough on bullies. Yes, there are Black kids bullying White kids. I'm being made aware of that via the internet. What is disturbing me is this. I got bullied alot by White kids in middle school and high school. It was a long time ago, but I don't heal from things easily. Those events still make me depressed and angry today. Often I don't talk to people about it because I don't think alot of people want to listen. If I tell some people that I was bullied by alot of White kids, some people might perceive me as hateful.


    Actually, where I live(in the Deep South), alot of White women handle things that way anyway.

    And when I was talking about no one wanting Blacks around, I was talking about the 1900's when the level of prejudice was much higher, before mass media existed.

    And contrary to what you may think, there were Black people creating businesses. The fact is, in those days, Black people didn't have as much access to capital as Whites did. Whites ran everything, and Blacks had to look to Whites for everything, and there was a high rejection rate. Why did Henry Ford create an automobile company and no Black person has? It takes capital to do that. Anyone can learn build an automobile, but it takes capital to make them in mass production. Why didn't Blacks create the large scale businesses that Whites created? Well, due to the bigotry of that era, Blacks were denied access to capital. If you can't get capital easily, you have to find other ways.

    And something else to note. Whenever you have migrations of decent people looking for work, criminals do often follow because they are looking for a quick buck. Something else to think about. Why do Black criminals do their dirt in majority Black areas? Why don't Black criminals do their dirt in San Leandro or Sausalito, but they do their dirt in Oakland and Richmond?

    And another thing. Blacks were leaving the South because of the Jim Crow laws. Blacks basically lived in fear.

    I will share something with you. My grandparents(RIP) are from western Mississippi. They were sharecroppers living in the Jim Crow era. They were tired of living poor, being treated poorly, and being forced into a position of subservience. They left the South and moved to Wisconsin. My grandfather got a job in a factor. It was much better than being a sharecropper. My aunt and father were born and raised in Wisconsin. My grandparents were able to own their own home. They could give their children nice clothes to wear, plenty of food to eat, and basically, a much better life than in Mississippi. My grandparents didn't have much education, but they made sure their children stayed in school and did their homework. They kept their children in church, made sure they were inside by dark. Both my aunt and my father have bachelor and masters degrees in engineering and chemistry. My father is an engineer. I will be graduating from college very soon as well. My grandparents left the South because it was bad for them. I think they made the right choice and the fruits of that labor live on through their grandchildren. How does anything you have to say about Black people represent ME or my family?

    In today's era, alot of Black people are trying to get away from criminals, regardless of what race they are. My father didn't want to raise his children around criminals because when he was younger, he grew up near alot of criminals. Why didn't my grandparents just get another house somewhere else? Well,restrictive covenants meant Blacks could only live in certain parts of major cities. If a Black man found that his neighborhood was getting rough and he wanted out, he didn't have many options.

    Call it what you want, but history and bigotry played a big part in why Black people weren't providing alot of jobs for their people back in the 1900s. There is a difference between the immigrant who came to the USA and the Black American who was already here. The immigrant comes with a different mentality. The immigrant came to make his own life better. He was willing to make sacrifices because he felt like America was the land of freedom and opportunity. The immigrant CHOSE to be hear, and therefore, is more grateful.
    The Black man in America was here because his ancestors were forced to be here. They were brought here as slaves by so many means. Most Black people who were in the USA before 1865 were slaves in the South, picking cotton, sugar cane, tobacco. The Black man didn't see the USA as the land of freedom and opportunity, but rather, a land of chains and oppression. A Black man working a job as a janitor, he might have viewed, not as a decent opportunity, but as a dead end.

    This nation got rich because of slave labor. The factories in the North were getting rich because of the raw materials from the South, often harvested by slaves. Black slaves didn't get any compensation for that. Even when slavery ended, there were still problems. There was the time of Reconstruction, when Blacks did have some gains, but after Reconstruction, Blacks were put into a state of second class citizenship. Blacks were often intimidated with violence if they wanted to vote. They were effectively kept from voted and they basically lived under dictatorship. While most people in the South weren't getting a good education, if you were Black, you really couldn't get a good education. For every dollar spent on educating White children, 12 or 13 cents was spent on educating Black children. Black children got the worst books, the worst building. It didn't matter if you lived a mile from the school. If you were Black, you could only go to a Black school, even if that school was 8 miles away and there was no bus to take you to school. What I am telling you is a historical fact.
    I know this. What kind of conclusion I am supposed to draw from this? Do you expect me to cry?! All problems black people have encountered are result of his own nature or faults.
    As usual, you are blaming others, like somebody didn't give you capital, jobs, got enslaved, etc.
    Think about this. If you expect someone to give you something, then who gave a white man a capital? Who gave a white man jobs? Who educated white man? Why you got enslaved? Why you didn't enslave a white man instead?
    No one wanted blacks around - why they should want blacks around?

    Do you know that there was a serfdom in Europe, the same as in US in a fields of agriculture? Peasants could be owned, bought and sold? White man vs white man? How these people could evolve, while you can't? Do we constantly bring this up, blame each other, investigate who was peasant roots and who has not, and who has - should be compensated?

    Men up and stop whining. Many whites went through that too. In USA blacks expect their ass kissed because they were slaves! Exploiting the "race card". You are the one who don't know the history. Jee!
    Last edited by martin_777; Feb 17 2012 at 08:38 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    Yes I can speak 2 languages. English and French. I am currently working on speaking Portuguese and Dutch.

    I kind of do blame them. I think of it as "what did I do to them"? If a group of Black men go and beat up a lone White kid, I'm not going to accept that either. That is just as wrong and I won't excuse it.
    And Whites didn't ask to be forced to share a neighborhood with a bunch of "people" who are statistically more violent, criminally inclined, depraved, obnoxious, rude, loud and destructive either. Blacks go out of their way to fix black-on-black crime, I've never heard them once mention fixing black-on-White crime.

    You're thinking is biased. Whites are not solely to blame for racism against blacks. The attitude of the vast majority of blacks is atrocious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    Why don't Black criminals do their dirt in San Leandro or Sausalito, but they do their dirt in Oakland and Richmond?
    Because there are not so many of them.

    Crime index in San Leandro, where 12% of blacks.


    Crime index in Sausalito, where 0.9% of blacks:


    Crime index in Richmond, where 26% of blacks.


    Crime index in Oakland, where 28% of blacks


    We see a correlation - the more blacks(and hispanics), the more higher a crime index.
    The lower % of blacks - the lower crime index.
    It doesn't mean that all blacks are criminals and I am not stating that you, saturn, is a criminal.
    Last edited by martin_777; Feb 18 2012 at 12:41 AM.
    The Zionist and his bank are now ruling over everything: over Europe, education, civilization, socialism, especially socialism, for he will use it to uproot Christianity and destroy its civilization. And when only anarchy remains, the Zionist will be in command of everything. F. M. Dostoyevsky & The Zionist Bankers, 1877

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    Well I have never really experience any real racism from other races but I have experience it from whites that had white guilt.

    I was told by HR that I was white one time and I should not have an issue with being called a NI&&ER.

    I got put at fault for an accident by a white racist cop as well. How do I know? Because I have black friends in the DEPT. He was a trouble maker and was in deep (*)(*)(*)(*) about his racist attitude. He was scared to write a black man a ticket. A black man that was driving with a revoked licence for drunk driving. I did get out of it but it took cussing out the Sargent and demanding a lie detector test, a review of the officer and many other threats. Sad thing is it just went away the pig is still there.
    When we can see a better future for our nations children we can focus on the non issue; issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_777 View Post
    I know this. What kind of conclusion I am supposed to draw from this? Do you expect me to cry?! All problems black people have encountered are result of his own nature or faults.
    As usual, you are blaming others, like somebody didn't give you capital, jobs, got enslaved, etc.
    Think about this. If you expect someone to give you something, then who gave a white man a capital? Who gave a white man jobs? Who educated white man? Why you got enslaved? Why you didn't enslave a white man instead?
    No one wanted blacks around - why they should want blacks around?

    Do you know that there was a serfdom in Europe, the same as in US in a fields of agriculture? Peasants could be owned, bought and sold? White man vs white man? How these people could evolve, while you can't? Do we constantly bring this up, blame each other, investigate who was peasant roots and who has not, and who has - should be compensated?

    Men up and stop whining. Many whites went through that too. In USA blacks expect their ass kissed because they were slaves! Exploiting the "race card". You are the one who don't know the history. Jee!
    I know about sefdom in Europe. Europe was in the dark ages for a long time.

    No one wanted Blacks around after the Civil War because Blacks were seen as useless for little more than slave labor. You don't understand how American history works. And after your last post, it is clear that you don't care.

    White people had one another to turn to. Blacks didn't, because for the most part, thanks to the disturbing chapter of slavery, Blacks were starting out with nothing. And there have been times when Blacks started their own businesses. It was difficult to keep up the businesses because they had to charge more. In order for Blacks to be successful in businesses at the same level as Whites, production is necessary. Blacks had a much harder time getting farming subsidies or mining subsidies from the government than Whites. I have read this and done the research for myself. You haven't, as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_777 View Post
    Because there are not so many of them.

    Crime index in San Leandro, where 12% of blacks.


    Crime index in Sausalito, where 0.9% of blacks:


    Crime index in Richmond, where 26% of blacks.


    Crime index in Oakland, where 28% of blacks


    We see a correlation - the more blacks(and hispanics), the more higher a crime index.
    The lower % of blacks - the lower crime index.
    It doesn't mean that all blacks are criminals and I am not stating that you, saturn, is a criminal.
    My point is that Black criminals are more likely to commit crimes in predominantly Black areas. Example. Black drug dealers don't sell drugs in Hollywood or the wealthy parts of Marin County. They sell their drugs in the worst parts of Oakland or San Francisco. Please answer this, why do Black criminals commit the majority of their crimes in Black areas? Why not in White areas?

    And I never said you said I was a criminal. My point is that because I'm Black, people are going to try and stereotype me as a criminal. That does nothing for ME. It makes my life harder. What I want is to live a decent life and a high quality of life. That is what I want for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    My point is that Black criminals are more likely to commit crimes in predominantly Black areas. Example. Black drug dealers don't sell drugs in Hollywood or the wealthy parts of Marin County. They sell their drugs in the worst parts of Oakland or San Francisco. Please answer this, why do Black criminals commit the majority of their crimes in Black areas? Why not in White areas?

    Because when blacks are with blacks - it reveals their true nature. When he is among whites, he wants to pretend like he is "good", so that whites would let him stay around them. He knows that "whites are better". It's working not just only with blacks, but also with Caucasians in Russia, for example. I don't know why you call whites Caucasians. These people from Northern Caucasus and Central Asia commit more crimes too. When they move in in single numbers they also pretend like they are "good". People accept them. When their number starts growing, the crimes spike. They start running mafias and drug cartels.

    And if to follow your logic, then whites should commit more crimes in white neighborhoods?
    In fact, I see a veiled suggestion to use whites as a medium/environment to stop black crimes. You don't want to work on yourselves, you want to use whites to resolve your own problems. See, the way these blacks are?
    Anyway, it doesn't change the law: the more blacks - the more crimes.
    Answer my question - why whites don't commit more crimes when they are in white neighborhood? Do whites commit more/less crimes when they are in a black neighborhood?



    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    And I never said you said I was a criminal. My point is that because I'm Black, people are going to try and stereotype me as a criminal. That does nothing for ME. It makes my life harder. What I want is to live a decent life and a high quality of life. That is what I want for myself.
    I was just trying to predict your thought flaw. I noticed that you always pointing at yourself, despite I never point anything at you.
    Last edited by martin_777; Feb 19 2012 at 02:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    I know about sefdom in Europe. Europe was in the dark ages for a long time.
    If you know that, you should realize that every race have evolved from the point of zero. And Africa is still in dark ages and some of you still even eating each other! No doubt when we get these news we don't want to be around you!

    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    No one wanted Blacks around after the Civil War because Blacks were seen as useless for little more than slave labor. You don't understand how American history works. And after your last post, it is clear that you don't care.
    This is a bare-worded accusation. I perfectly understand how American system works historically - blacks themselves and ZOG government always forcing whites to deal with you, while whites don't want it for variety of reasons and left with no choice. At the same time we are brainwashed like democracy used to rule this country.

    Quote Originally Posted by saturn View Post
    White people had one another to turn to. Blacks didn't, because for the most part, thanks to the disturbing chapter of slavery, Blacks were starting out with nothing. And there have been times when Blacks started their own businesses. It was difficult to keep up the businesses because they had to charge more. In order for Blacks to be successful in businesses at the same level as Whites, production is necessary. Blacks had a much harder time getting farming subsidies or mining subsidies from the government than Whites. I have read this and done the research for myself. You haven't, as far as I know.
    Looks like you didn't try to answer my questions and didn't come to an obvious conclusion. Someone should give a white men first, before they could give something to each other - I am using your logic. As usual, you blaming white man again - white man didn't give you something. I will answer my own questions for you, since you can't.

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    Due to this factor, it will always create an impression for you, like you are being cheated and discriminated, while you simply loose in a competition. We live in a market economy, we all compete.
    So, this is why I am strongly convinced that segregation is a perfect solution for blacks, whites and browns.
    Last edited by martin_777; Feb 19 2012 at 01:49 PM.
    The Zionist and his bank are now ruling over everything: over Europe, education, civilization, socialism, especially socialism, for he will use it to uproot Christianity and destroy its civilization. And when only anarchy remains, the Zionist will be in command of everything. F. M. Dostoyevsky & The Zionist Bankers, 1877

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